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    The USS Ford will be nicknamed.......

    Quote Originally Posted by tbm3fan View Post
    Yes, let's hope she doesn't trip over herself like Jerry.
    I'm waiting for the nickname of the USS Gerald Ford... ???

    Top 5 choices

    1. "The Edsel"
    2. "Bright Idea"
    3. "Jerry's Place"
    4. "Bumper"
    5. "Ford tough"

    Looking for a long successful service career with 7 Seas warranty
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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    thats a tracking issue, not a weapon issue. If the mount is properly tracking the laser wont miss. Tracking with a DEW is also easier because there is no need to build in a lead, slew directly on target and fire.

    If the tracking is off and a friendly is hit, a laser designed to defeat think skinned things like missiles and aircraft is unlikely to serious damage a steel arship. and there is no shrapnel.
    Antiship missiles are designed to penetrate ships then explode. For a laser to destroy the ASM it has to punch through the armor of the missile. Especially in the point defence mode where the missile presents a frontal profile.

    If the laser has to be strong enough to burn through the penetration warhead, than it will be strong enough to burn through friendly ships.




    You can say BS all you want, but different substances are tuned to different freqs. You can tune a laser to virtually ignore a number of non-opaque substances including water vapor and droplets. In fact you can even tune lasers to ignore water particles of a certain size and while being especially tuned to other droplets of a certain size. This is letting scientists look inside of rain clouds to literally count rain drops. Your information is out of date.
    No you are confused. All lasers are not the same. I'm discussing, and am experienced on high energy military grade lasers. The " look inside of rain clouds" lasers are a different breed. Called LIDARs. They use reflection from the laser to "Count the raindrops".

    You cannot tune lasers to ignore water. You can mess with the wavelength so that they can penetrate further. But that degrades the strength of the laser. The laser that can "See" through a cloud or storm is not powerful enough to be used as a weapon. Or even a weapon designator.


    FYI
    LIDAR (what you were referencing without knowing it)
    Uses of Lasers
    One key to understanding the atmosphere is the ability to study its components, including clouds (liquid), aerosols (suspended particles), and ozone and water vapor (gases). Researchers at NASA Langley use laser-based systems called lidars (light detection and ranging) to study the atmosphere with high precision. A lidar can penetrate thin or broken clouds in the lower atmosphere, where humans live, letting researchers "see" the vertical structure of the atmosphere. A space-based lidar can provide global measurements of the vertical structure of clouds and atmospheric gases. Both ozone and water vapor are involved in many important atmospheric processes that can affect life on Earth, climate change, weather, the Earth's energy budget, and regional and global pollution levels.

    How Does A Lidar Work?
    A lidar is similar to radar, which is commonly used to track everything from airplanes in flight to thunderstorms. Instead of bouncing radio waves off its target, however, a lidar uses short pulses of laser light to detect particles or gases in the atmosphere. Traveling as a tight, unbroken beam, the laser light disperses very little as it moves away from its origin -- such as from space down to the Earth's surface. Some of the laser's light reflects off of tiny particles -- even molecules -- in the atmosphere. The reflected light comes back to a telescope and is collected and measured. By precisely timing the collected light, and by measuring how much reflected light is received by the telescope, scientists can accurately determine the location, distribution and nature of the particles.

    A lidar carries its own source of laser light, which means it can make measurements both in the daytime and at night. The result is a revolutionary new tool for studying what's in our atmosphere - from cloud droplets to industrial pollutants - many of which are difficult to detect by other means.
    Its called Tourist Season. So why can't we shoot them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidgepump View Post
    I'm wating for the nickname of the USS Gerald Ford... ???

    Top 5 choices

    1. "The Edsel"
    2. "Bright Idea"
    3. "Jerry's Place"
    4. "Bumper"
    5. "Ford tough"

    Looking for a long successful service career with 7 Seas warranty
    Whatever it is, I don't imagine anything worse than the unofficial nickname given the USS Kitty Hawk.

    While her official nickname was "Battle Cat" everyone knows her as

    "The Shitty Kitty"
    Its called Tourist Season. So why can't we shoot them?

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    Not exactly a crowd pleaser....

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Grape View Post
    Whatever it is, I don't imagine anything worse than the unofficial nickname given the USS Kitty Hawk.

    While her official nickname was "Battle Cat" everyone knows her as

    "The Shitty Kitty"
    Ouch !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Grape View Post
    Whatever it is, I don't imagine anything worse than the unofficial nickname given the USS Kitty Hawk.

    While her official nickname was "Battle Cat" everyone knows her as

    "The Shitty Kitty"
    In our V8 supercar competition over here 'Ford' can be an acronym for:

    Found On Rubbish Dump
    Fix Or Repair Daily
    First On Race Day

    Lets hope the first two don't apply to the Ford.

    One thing I've always wanted to know is how fast these ships can go. I saw a doco about the anti pirate ops in the Gulf of Aden. It was following the HMAS Adelaide and her daily rountine. On one of the days they had to perform SAR duty for one of the US carriers (where they follow the carrier and standby to pick up any fliers who have to eject on landing).

    The commander of the Adelaide said he was having to go flat out just to keep pace with the carrier. Adelaide class frigates can do 30+ knots no probs. I've read that the Nimitz can alledgedly do 40+ Knots.

    I think its classified but still, anyone care to speculate on the topspeed of new ships? Would not surprise me at all if they could do 40+Knots considering the Iows BBs could hit 35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Grape View Post
    Whatever it is, I don't imagine anything worse than the unofficial nickname given the USS Kitty Hawk.

    While her official nickname was "Battle Cat" everyone knows her as

    "The Shitty Kitty"
    "Mobile Chernobyl" for USS Enterprise isn't particularly flattering either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Boat View Post
    In our V8 supercar competition over here 'Ford' can be an acronym for:

    Found On Rubbish Dump
    Fix Or Repair Daily
    First On Race Day

    Lets hope the first two don't apply to the Ford.

    One thing I've always wanted to know is how fast these ships can go. I saw a doco about the anti pirate ops in the Gulf of Aden. It was following the HMAS Adelaide and her daily rountine. On one of the days they had to perform SAR duty for one of the US carriers (where they follow the carrier and standby to pick up any fliers who have to eject on landing).

    The commander of the Adelaide said he was having to go flat out just to keep pace with the carrier. Adelaide class frigates can do 30+ knots no probs. I've read that the Nimitz can alledgedly do 40+ Knots.

    I think its classified but still, anyone care to speculate on the topspeed of new ships? Would not surprise me at all if they could do 40+Knots considering the Iows BBs could hit 35.
    I heard that Ford stood for "Found On Roadside Dead"!

    I read a report by Stuart Slade that said the Nimitz-class carriers really weren't designed to go much over 30 knots, as propulsive efficiency drops off rapidly at anything over 30 knots. The Enterprise was actually the speed king of carriers, partly because she had eight reactors (over-designed), but also because of the fineness of her hull; she actually had a fairly narrow beam in relation to her length which, like the Iowa's, contributed to her top speed. You'll notice that the Big E is still the longest carrier ever built.

    We actually had a thread about this here on the board a few years back: http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/nav...r-carrier.html

    And you can view Mr. Slade's online article here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Grape View Post
    While her official nickname was "Battle Cat" everyone knows her as

    "The Shitty Kitty"
    Waaa... why?!

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    Like referring to Gerald Ford with "she" wasn't bad enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitch View Post

    And you can view Mr. Slade's online article here.
    What it all boils down to: A carrier is only as fast as it's slowest escort....
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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    DEWS Directed Energy Weapons Systems
    Thanks....I am enough of an old fart to think "Wait, Distant Early Warning System?!?!!? What the hell does an old radar picket line in the subArctic have to do with CVN-78?"
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    I imagine the crews will be know as Jerry's Kids.

    I could see it called The Wolverine War Wagon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albany Rifles View Post
    I imagine the crews will be know as Jerry's Kids.

    I could see it called The Wolverine War Wagon.
    The Pardon Me- both a reference to Nixon and a non-sincere apology to which ever tin pot claims a particular piece of ocean the US is sailing through at will.

    The Wolverine- his college team

    The Linebacker- his position

    The Watch Your Step- a reference to his fall and a warning to enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albany Rifles View Post
    Thanks....I am enough of an old fart to think "Wait, Distant Early Warning System?!?!!? What the hell does an old radar picket line in the subArctic have to do with CVN-78?"
    Yeah that was my first thought too

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    New ship, new tech and new systems. Bet the Plankholding Crew nicknames her the "Got Fu#ked"

    And oh yea, AR was spot on with the crew being called "Jerrys Kids"
    Its called Tourist Season. So why can't we shoot them?

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