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  • #46
    your not the only squid that thinks the same..

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    • #47
      The excerpted portion of an article below (from Inside the Navy, pulled from a LexisNexis news feed) mentions future use of lasers against small boats.

      Zumwalt is much larger, but given a situation where a laser is being used to try to burn through the deckhouse, steel might be less vulnerable than Zumwalt's stealthy endgrain balsa wood core composite deckhouse construction, depending much on what is included in that composite and if resisting a laser attack was considered in engineering that.

      Against surface vessels, I would think materials and design would affect vulnerability more than size alone.

      If lasers are (or will be) worthwhile weapons, USN won't be alone in using them. PLA supposedly is developing ground based laser anti-satellite weapons, and it may be not much of a stretch in development effort to use similar technology in a ship based weapon.




      Small vessels have long been seen as serious threats to U.S. naval forces. "Small boats with explosives or anti-ship missiles remain a potential threat to our forces in the constrained waters of the Arabian Gulf," states Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert's unclassified prepared testimony for an April 16 hearing.

      ...will also test the new Laser Weapons System during FY-14 in the Persian Gulf aboard the Ponce, an amphibious ship that last year became an interim Afloat Forward Staging Base. The laser brings capabilities to defeat small boats and unmanned aircraft "for about $1 a shot compared to thousands or millions of dollars per artillery round or missile," Greenert noted.

      In a speech last month, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the shipboard solid-state laser "provides an affordable answer to the costly problem of defending against asymmetric threats like missiles, swarming small boats, and remotely piloted aircraft."

      In April, the Office of Naval Research issued a statement noting that Greenert's announcement "underscored the need for accessible high-power electric generation, capable of meeting the substantial demands that will be needed to power laser systems and other high-power weapon systems."

      The report accompanying the House Armed Services Committee's FY-14 defense authorization bill cheers the Navy's maritime-laser effort and requests a briefing providing further details. Also, Senate authorizers have requested a separate report from the Pentagon's research and engineering chief that would take a broader look at various laser systems in development throughout DOD and provide "common performance metrics and the criteria that can be used for down-selection, further development, and eventual deployment."
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      • #48
        A conventional superstructure has been slated for DDG 1002.

        Bath Iron Works awarded $212M contract for additional work on USS LBJ
        By Beth Brogan
        Bangor Daily News, Maine
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        Published: August 3, 2013

        BATH, Maine — Bath Iron Works has been awarded a $212 million contract by the U.S. Navy for more work on the future USS Lyndon B. Johnson, one of three DDG-1000 series stealth destroyers being built at the Bath shipyard.

        “This contract will provide significant and important work for BIW,” Sens. Susan Collins and Angus King said in a joint statement Friday afternoon. “BIW engineers and workers are designing and building one of the most complex ships in the world, and the three destroyers Bath is currently building will be invaluable assets to U.S. national security and the Navy’s fleet.”

        Three of the Zumwalt-class DDG 1000s, stealth destroyers that the Navy since has discontinued because of their cost, are being worked on at BIW. But BIW competitor Ingalls Shipbuilding in Mississippi built the deckhouses for the first two stealth destroyers, the DDG 1000, the future USS Zumwalt, which is nearing completion; and the DDG 1001, the future USS Michael Mansoor, due in late 2014 or 2015.

        The deckhouses for the first two Zumwalts were built of composite, but the BIW-built deckhouse for the DDG 1002, the future USS Lyndon B. Johnson, will be built of steel, BIW spokesman Jim DeMartini said Friday.

        “What this means to us is that these critical components for the 1002 are going to help us maintain our highly skilled and specialized engineering and design workforce, and [the contract modification] is providing additional stability to our manufacturing workload,” he said. “Obviously we’re very happy to have been selected to do this work, and it’s important that we do it well.”

        The contract modification comes only two months after BIW received what the company called earlier Friday “a strong message” from the U.S. Navy about its competitiveness.

        In June, the Navy awarded BIW contracts to build four — and possibly five — DDG 51 destroyers, and awarded a full five contracts to Ingalls Shipbuilding.

        Earlier Friday, BIW announced plans to build a major new facility at the Bath shipyard. In a proposal to the Bath City Council announcing plans for the project, BIW officials wrote, “Although BIW was awarded four ships, the inescapable fact is that BIW was not the winning bidder.” The company said the new facility would allow it to increase efficiency and “improve our competitive position to win future work.”

        DeMartini said the DDG 1002 contract modification would not specifically increase hiring at BIW, but noted that the company is hiring in the manufacturing trades as part of a ramp-up in production for the DDG 1000 program.

        Bath Iron Works awarded $212M contract for additional work on USS LBJ - U.S. - Stripes
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        • #49
          Just like the WWII Memorial closure, must inflict pain, Obama style.

          The christening of the first-in-class destroyer Zumwalt, which had been set for Oct. 19 at Maine’s Bath Iron Works, has been postponed by the government shutdown, the Navy said in a Friday news release.

          “It is incredibly unfortunate that we are being forced to cancel the christening ceremony for this great warship,” Navy Secretary Ray Mabus said in the release, “but the ongoing government shutdown prevents us from being able to honor Admiral Zumwalt’s memory with a ceremony befitting his and his family’s legacy of service to our Nation and our Navy.”

          The Navy and the shipyard, owned by General Dynamics, are in talks to reschedule the ceremony, the release said. As of early Friday, the yard’s website providing details on the event had not been updated to reflect the schedule change.
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          • #50
            Has some pretty good recent pictures of her - DDG 1000 Pics: Billy Badass Has Arrived | gCaptain

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            • #51
              Originally posted by qaz14595 View Post
              Has some pretty good recent pictures of her - DDG 1000 Pics: Billy Badass Has Arrived | gCaptain
              "Yo dawg, I hear you like prows, so I put a prow in your prow, so you can cruise while you cruise"
              "There's no naval design school like old school"

              Sorry, just had to...

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              • #52
                Thanks for the pics man, I've been looking for something like this for a little while now. That's one big ship, I read early in the forum that she weighs about the same as a WW2 era battle cruiser.

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                • #53
                  There's quite the knife-edge of a bow on her.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by dan m View Post
                    That's one big ship, I read early in the forum that she weighs about the same as a WW2 era battle cruiser.
                    About 1500 tons more than a Baltimore-class heavy cruiser. She's about 70 ft shorter than a Baltimore but 10 ft wider.
                    “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                    • #55
                      83 nautical mile range on those 155mm guns or equivalent 6" gun!?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
                        83 nautical mile range on those 155mm guns or equivalent 6" gun!?
                        "Say hello to my little LRAP friend!"

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by tbm3fan View Post
                          83 nautical mile range on those 155mm guns or equivalent 6" gun!?
                          I think that may be a mis-print. Some articles claim the gun has 63 nautical mile range, that is unless they are calulating number for on land milage.

                          But in either case I think you will see terror factions (like the ones in somalia) moving ALOT further in shore.

                          Last edited by Dreadnought; 19 Oct 13,, 16:14.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by TopHatter View Post
                            About 1500 tons more than a Baltimore-class heavy cruiser. She's about 70 ft shorter than a Baltimore but 10 ft wider.
                            Incredible. Its hard to believe that the navy originally wanted 34 of them. Pretty sure that the number is down 7 or 3 now, not exactly sure which it is though.

                            Oh yeah nearly forgot

                            http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...r-with-gu.html

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by dan m View Post
                              Incredible. Its hard to believe that the navy originally wanted 34 of them. Pretty sure that the number is down 7 or 3 now, not exactly sure which it is though.

                              Oh yeah nearly forgot

                              Newest $3.5 billion navy ship -- actually commanded by Captain Kirk -- is floating data center with guns | PBS NewsHour
                              I totally wonder if the US Navy deliberately and purposedfully chose Capt James Kirk to command the ship because of his name.

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                              • #60
                                They probably did lol xD. It would be gold if they had him command the next carrier named Enterprise.

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