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    A good thing is a modified early Tico CG, would still have the rear 5".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dundonrl View Post
    the problem with the 155's, they are only useful for shore bombardment, and not designed for ship to ship combat.
    Why not? If the AGS had gone with the original idea of a fixed vertical installation with GPS guided projectiles, I could see that being the case.

    Since the navy opted to mount the gun in a turret however, it would presumably be able to fire unguided projectiles on a flat trajectory when engaging ships. It sports a respectable 10 RPM fire rate, a bigger punch, and longer range than the 5" guns. The AGS turret has a similar elevation range as the 5" mount, and while I don't know how quickly it can traverse, it should be able to get away with a slower speed since it can engage targets at longer ranges than the Mark 45. I would assume that stocking ammunition suitable for engaging ships wouldn't be an insurmountable obstacle.

    What am I missing? Fire control issues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
    Why not? If the AGS had gone with the original idea of a fixed vertical installation with GPS guided projectiles, I could see that being the case.

    Since the navy opted to mount the gun in a turret however, it would presumably be able to fire unguided projectiles on a flat trajectory when engaging ships. It sports a respectable 10 RPM fire rate, a bigger punch, and longer range than the 5" guns. The AGS turret has a similar elevation range as the 5" mount, and while I don't know how quickly it can traverse, it should be able to get away with a slower speed since it can engage targets at longer ranges than the Mark 45". I would assume that stocking ammunition suitable for engaging ships wouldn't be an insurmountable obstacle.

    What am I missing? Fire control issues?
    GPS against mobile targets? Switch to laser guided.

    Apart from rate-of-fire, the only other issue I see is shell velocity. Anyone knows what that will be? To compare with the 5" Mark 45?


    A thought: the US could also develop giant shotgun shells, like the ones I believe the Yamato had, for AAA duty!

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    Since the navy opted to mount the gun in a turret however, it would presumably be able to fire unguided projectiles on a flat trajectory when engaging ships. It sports a respectable 10 RPM fire rate, a bigger punch, and longer range than the 5" guns. The AGS turret has a similar elevation range as the 5" mount, and while I don't know how quickly it can traverse, it should be able to get away with a slower speed since it can engage targets at longer ranges than the Mark 45. I would assume that stocking ammunition suitable for engaging ships wouldn't be an insurmountable obstacle.

    What am I missing? Fire control issues?[/QUOTE]

    I believe the Navy plan is the Vertical Launch System and use a AGM-158C LRASM type weapon. Wicked fast can make corrections and can touch the target from very long distance. All things the 5" and 155 can not do.

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    Captain James Kirk of the DDG 1000 Zumwalt has written an extensive report on his ship.

    http://www.usni.org/node/86065

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    Here are some March Sea Trial photos and another tug video.

    http://gcaptain.com/photos-uss-zumwa...wy-sea-trials/

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    This article has some interior shots (including "Broadway").

    http://www.defensenews.com/story/def...vsea/82456618/

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    Thank you, good read.

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    Navy’s Futuristic Destroyer is Apparently Too Stealthy

    When it comes to naval destroyers, there’s apparently such a thing as being too stealthy. The U.S. Navy’s new Zumwalt-class guided missile destroyer (DDG 1000) is so covert that during normal peacetime operations its crew plan to sail with giant reflectors — reflective cylinders hoisted in the air — to ensure other ships can see it.

    A lobsterman in Maine, Lawrence Pye, told The Associated Press that during a recent outing his radar indicated a 40- or 50-foot fishing vessel was approaching. It turned out to be the hulking 610-foot warship. “It’s pretty mammoth when it’s that close to you,” Pye told the news service.

    The Zumwalt already is 50 times more difficult to detect on radar than other destroyers in the fleet. But it will be even stealthier after the testing equipment loaded onto the ship for trials is removed, Zumwalt program manager Capt. James Downey said. The reflective material that will be used aboard the Zumwalt will look like metal cylinders. Other vessels have also used the material during difficult navigation conditions, such as in heavy fog or busy ship lanes.
    http://www.defensetech.org/2016/04/1...lthy/?mobile=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
    Didn't the F-117 have the same "problem"? And I bet the B-2 does as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlvfr View Post
    Didn't the F-117 have the same "problem"? And I bet the B-2 does as well...
    Stealth aircraft regularly fly with radar reflectors mounted on the outside to aid Air Traffic Control in avoiding mid-air collisions when routing traffic domestically. They always mount some reflectors when traveling overseas as well so that other countries can't get a good read on their actual signature in a war configuration. When you read about China or Britain detecting an F-22 transiting the ocean, this is why.

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    Here is a photo posted to Facebook by General Dynamics of Zumwalt at speed.

    https://m.facebook.com/3240294343256...75306755864536

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    Here's a video released by the Navy showing some of the living conditions onboard.

    http://www.navy.mil/viewVideo.asp?id=21634

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