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    I would just trade the Gorkshov for a couple nuclear submarines. More bang for the buck and stick with the ADS class and build three of them. They are more suited to aerial warfare than Gorkshov ever was.

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    J-15 (son of SU-33) lands and takes off from the "new" chinese carrier:



    A question to anyone that might know: when the J-15 is being lined up to take off, there are big red "bumpers" on the runway, to stop the wheels right at the corret spot (I assume). I don't remember ever seeing those on western carriers=

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    Gorskhov is more of a pain than necessary.


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    The only news that comes out about Admiral Gorshkov is bad news. I'm not saying that the ship is jinxed but there must be some good reason the russians put this cursed thing up for sale.

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    The lease for the nuclear submarine was a better deal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anil View Post
    The only news that comes out about Admiral Gorshkov is bad news. I'm not saying that the ship is jinxed but there must be some good reason the russians put this cursed thing up for sale.
    Cause they didn't have the money to repair, operate and equip it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlvfr View Post

    A question to anyone that might know: when the J-15 is being lined up to take off, there are big red "bumpers" on the runway, to stop the wheels right at the corret spot (I assume). I don't remember ever seeing those on western carriers=
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parihaka View Post
    No catapult. Saves on brakes.
    But it also cuts down on max take off weight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blademaster View Post
    I would just trade the Gorkshov for a couple nuclear submarines. More bang for the buck and stick with the ADS class and build three of them. They are more suited to aerial warfare than Gorkshov ever was.
    Russian nuclear submarines seem to have a problem surfacing however....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlvfr View Post
    But it also cuts down on max take off weight...
    Yes it does. That's why the Americans invest so much time and effort on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    The lease for the nuclear submarine was a better deal.
    There are indications that it was an all or nothing deal. The Russians weren't willing to part with the sub unless India bought the Gorshkov as well.

    P.S: Something weird here. Ray is being shown online as well as banned.

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    India bought the Gorggy. She leased the nuke sub. There is a difference. The Russians cannot legally sell India nuclear weapons assets but she can lease them to India (a loop hole in the NPT).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestorm View Post
    P.S: Something weird here. Ray is being shown online as well as banned.
    Someone banned can still be online. They simply cannot post etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blidgepump View Post
    To perform the work being addressed with the removal of the firebrick.... it might be time to look in Trade A Ship magazine and see what else is on the market. Perhaps the US Navy has an old flat top with low mileage and slightly used atomic reactors?

    Certainly eliminates the question about "fire bricks"
    There is also the decommissioned Kitty Hawk (CV-63) being held in reserve.
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    Kitty Hawk is the nominal 11th carrier if something hits the fan before the Ford is commissioned. (Realistically, she won't be recommissioned, but she's on hold in case, it was part of the deal allowing the Enterprise to be decommissioned prematurely as I understand)

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