A couple of points of clarification required.
Okay, so we are talking a NATO at 1980 force level w/ FY 2000 weaponry; same for Warsaw Pact.
Is the US Army at the 18 division peak (REFORGER matters in that case)?
Are the USN and NATO navies in the same force consideration? That means F-14s and A-6s as well as F-18s are in the force?
What about the Warsaw Pact countries…are they still tied to Mother Russia or has the unrest of the 1980s started to happen? Because what the Czech, Poles
What about France and its reemergence into NATO affairs?
These will all have HUGE implications on what the scenario outcome will be.
As for Bio/Chem = Nuke in US eyes, US policy was WMD = WMD. US would respond with nukes to any attack.
If we are talking 1978 forces with 1978 equipment, it would be a tough slog but I’d say the Warsaw Pact kicks NATOs collective asses.
In 2000s? I don’t know if GSFG can penetrate more than 20 kms. The question then becomes just how far into Eastern Europe does the NATO counterattack reach?
A great analysis of Pact forces in 1979 is available at the following link.
http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_000...0000278537.pdf
Apropos of nothing….I am reminded of one of those war games I used to play in high school and college…you may remember the Avalon Hill and Strategic Games. There was one about a Pact-NATO war. You could do all kinds of different scenarios. My favorite was where a Soviet tank division was nearing Stuttgart and it was facing the remnants of the 2 ACR, about a reinforced battalion in size commanded by MAJ G. A. Custer IV, US Army Cavalry. The Soviets would win by getting various number of points if they achieved so many assigned objectives in so many game turns. The US forces could win if they held on for so long. But I also remembered the US player would get a bonus of 30 points at the end of the game if he could still smile.
Okay, so we are talking a NATO at 1980 force level w/ FY 2000 weaponry; same for Warsaw Pact.
Is the US Army at the 18 division peak (REFORGER matters in that case)?
Are the USN and NATO navies in the same force consideration? That means F-14s and A-6s as well as F-18s are in the force?
What about the Warsaw Pact countries…are they still tied to Mother Russia or has the unrest of the 1980s started to happen? Because what the Czech, Poles
What about France and its reemergence into NATO affairs?
These will all have HUGE implications on what the scenario outcome will be.
As for Bio/Chem = Nuke in US eyes, US policy was WMD = WMD. US would respond with nukes to any attack.
If we are talking 1978 forces with 1978 equipment, it would be a tough slog but I’d say the Warsaw Pact kicks NATOs collective asses.
In 2000s? I don’t know if GSFG can penetrate more than 20 kms. The question then becomes just how far into Eastern Europe does the NATO counterattack reach?
A great analysis of Pact forces in 1979 is available at the following link.
http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_000...0000278537.pdf
Apropos of nothing….I am reminded of one of those war games I used to play in high school and college…you may remember the Avalon Hill and Strategic Games. There was one about a Pact-NATO war. You could do all kinds of different scenarios. My favorite was where a Soviet tank division was nearing Stuttgart and it was facing the remnants of the 2 ACR, about a reinforced battalion in size commanded by MAJ G. A. Custer IV, US Army Cavalry. The Soviets would win by getting various number of points if they achieved so many assigned objectives in so many game turns. The US forces could win if they held on for so long. But I also remembered the US player would get a bonus of 30 points at the end of the game if he could still smile.
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