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    Mao Zedong's only living grandson has suggested that the ideas of China's Great Helmsman were being misused by groups such as the Maoists in India, who were invoking his image to wage violence against the state.

    The greater relevance of Mao's philosophy in today's world was “to help maintain peace, stability and development” and create a more equitable global order, he said, suggesting that the former Chairman's ideas of “people's war” and violent struggle were less applicable in the post-colonial world.

    Mao Xinyu, who is a Major General in the People's Liberation Army (PLA), is known in China as a scholar on Mao Zedong Thought. His father, Mao Anqing, was the second son from Mao's marriage to Yang Kaihui.

    He has written several books on Mao's philosophy, and bears more than a passing resemblance to the former Chairman. The pudgy major general has a passion for military strategy, and, like his grandfather, professes a love for swimming.

    The younger Mao said he did not see a connection between India's Maoists and his grandfather's teachings, replying to a question from The Hindu in a meeting with a small group of journalists along the sidelines of the annual session of China's top political advisory body, the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC), on whose national committee he serves.

    He was, however, aware of the Maoist movement in Nepal, but believed that the “people's war” ideas that Mao made famous were particularly applicable in the fight against colonialism, suggesting they were not so relevant in today's world.

    “We need to understand Mao Zedong Thought before applying it,” he said. “Learning his ideas can help human development, peace and build a new world order.”

    “The application of Mao Zedong Thought,” he added, “should help maintain stability and development,” when asked about violent struggles still being waged in Mao's name.

    Mao's ideas had been of great relevance to countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America, who were waging anti-colonial struggles, he said.

    But he suggested that a more recent and relevant legacy was his support, along with former Premier Zhou Enlai, of the “five principles of peaceful co-existence,” which he pointed out still governed the diplomacy of many countries, including India and China.

    Mao Xinyu was appointed as the PLA's youngest ever major general — a move that was criticised by some Chinese commentators as a reflection of widely prevalent nepotism in political appointments. His rather unmilitary-like appearance was also the subject of ridicule for many Chinese bloggers.

    Even as Chinese politics has moved beyond the days of Mao in the three decades since Deng Xiaoping's reform and opening up, Mao Xinyu has written extensively on the relevance of his grandfather's ideas. He has, unsurprisingly, glossed over Mao's failings in the disastrous Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, which claimed tens of millions of lives.

    His message has been echoed by an increasingly influential New Left that has called for reviving Mao's populism to grapple with rising inequalities. Most notable among this section is the Chongqing party chief Bo Xilai, who has introduced campaigns to sing “Red songs” and emphasised more equitable economic growth. Mao Xinyu had words of praise for Mr. Bo, saying that singing red songs was “promoting China's good traditions.”
    Source: The Hindu : News / International :

    Well I wish the so called 'maoists' takes a look at this

  • #2
    The CCP certainly doesn't want the Maoists in India giving disgruntled factory workers and peasants any ideas.

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    • #3
      not sure folks realize this, but Mao Xinyu is laughing stock in the Chinese internet. He is a village idiot
      “the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson

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      • #4
        Originally posted by xinhui View Post
        not sure folks realize this, but Mao Xinyu is laughing stock in the Chinese internet. He is a village idiot
        Tell us more

        Help us understand better.

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        • #5
          need i say more
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          “the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson

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          • #6
            I don't judge books by the cover.

            Yes, tell us more.

            If i repeated elsewhere what you said here i would not be able to explain why

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            • #7
              try this.



              Mao's grandson, promoted to major general, faces ridicule
              Some in China say Mao Xinyu is a pudgy underachiever boosted only by nepotism. On the street, though, feelings are mixed.
              August 04, 2010|By John M. Glionna, Los Angeles Times

              Mao Xinyu | Mao's grandson, promoted to major general, faces ridicule - Los Angeles Times



              Reporting from Beijing — For many Chinese, he's a curious conundrum, an emerging national figure with some serious public relations issues.

              The only grandson of Mao Tse-tung, the Great Helmsman himself, Mao Xinyu's bloodlines ooze political royalty. Yet instead of praise, the 40-year-old faces ridicule as a pudgy underachiever shamelessly riding the coattails of the relative many consider this nation's greatest statesmen.



              When state media reported this week that the younger Mao had become the youngest officer to reach the rank of major general in the army his grandfather co-founded eight decades ago, critics unleashed another barrage of vitriol.

              Many claim one Mao in a leadership role was more than enough for China and that the military historian's rise to public prominence carries a grim foreboding. Others decry what they call state-sponsored nepotism run amok.

              On Tuesday, the Internet carried unflattering pictures of Mao, an academic who has spent most of his career researching the exploits of his famous grandfather, who died in 1976. Some showed him in his military uniform, his beefy neck bulging over his collar. There was an undated snapshot of him decked out in a flannel shirt, signing copies of his book "Grandpa Mao Tse-tung"

              His adversaries questioned his intelligence, and even his handwriting.

              "To have such an unqualified person become a general in China's military, it's an insult to the [People's Liberation Army,]" said Pu Zhiqiang, a lawyer and human rights activist. "Those promoted in the future as generals should feel humiliated by this."

              Until recently, officials had refused to confirm that the unassuming Mao had gained the rank, apparently to avoid claims of favoritism.

              "This is a natural elevation. Mao's many achievements earned him the right to be promoted," Bao Guojun, a spokesman for the PLA's Academy of Military Sciences, where Mao works as a historian, told reporters this week.

              Mao Xinyu's father was Mao Anqing, offspring of one of the Chairman's numerous marriages. The younger Mao graduated from the history department at the People's University in Beijing and received a doctorate from the Academy of Military Sciences. A blogger who has supported the socialist doctrine, Mao is married with two children, an anomaly in a nation with a strict one-child policy.

              In an interview last fall with a Chinese newspaper, Mao spoke of his military service and famous forebear.

              "It was after joining the army that I began to really understand Grandpa," he said. "As a soldier, I regard him as our leader and commander in chief."

              Yet some academics question the younger Mao's achievements.

              "If Mao Xinyu deserves to be a general, he needs to show us he has done something," said Liu Shanying, a professor at the Institute of Political Sciences under the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

              "So far, we haven't seen any results from his studies. He hasn't come up with any new ideas about his grandfather's theories. From an academic view, he lacks achievement."


              For years, Mao Xinyu has fiercely defended his now-controversial ancestor — considered a national hero by most but a heartless strongman by a growing number of younger Chinese.

              After helping overthrow Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalists to establish the People's Republic of China in 1949, the leader known as Chairman Mao wielded unrivaled power until his death. Today, Mao's descendants play little role in state affairs.

              As they rushed in and out of a city subway not far from Tiananmen Square on Tuesday, Beijing residents were mixed in their reaction to Mao's promotion.

              Dressed in a flowing yellow robe, his wispy white beard blowing in a slight breeze, Buddhist monk Hong Yun said Chairman Mao had contributed so much to China that any family namesake deserved special privileges.

              "He's related to Chairman Mao," said the 68-year-old Hong. "He's earned his connections."

              Not far away, office worker Ji Qin shook her head in disagreement.

              "Promotions and government appointments should depend on a person's ability, not their name," she said, "even if that name is Mao."

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              Tommy Yang of The Times' Beijing Bureau contributed to this report.
              Last edited by xinhui; 14 Mar 12,, 18:26.
              “the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson

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              • #8
                In response to the above article, I now present you an image of the great comrade himself.


                Last edited by Blademaster; 14 Mar 12,, 19:32. Reason: Xinhui already posted the above image that I wanted to post.

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                • #9
                  Rats! I hoped I would be the first one to post the image of Mao's latest prodigy, his grandson!

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                  • #10
                    ok, so your article confirms what the Hindu journalist already said here

                    Mao Xinyu was appointed as the PLA's youngest ever major general — a move that was criticised by some Chinese commentators as a reflection of widely prevalent nepotism in political appointments. His rather unmilitary-like appearance was also the subject of ridicule for many Chinese bloggers.
                    What about the rest ?

                    The greater relevance of Mao's philosophy in today's world was “to help maintain peace, stability and development” and create a more equitable global order, he said, suggesting that the former Chairman's ideas of “people's war” and violent struggle were less applicable in the post-colonial world.
                    Would you agree with that interpretation ?

                    He was, however, aware of the Maoist movement in Nepal, but believed that the “people's war” ideas that Mao made famous were particularly applicable in the fight against colonialism, suggesting they were not so relevant in today's world.
                    He see's Mao's ideas as only applicable within a colonial context. Is this a narrow interpretation of Mao's philosophy or not.

                    “We need to understand Mao Zedong Thought before applying it,” he said. “Learning his ideas can help human development, peace and build a new world order.”

                    “The application of Mao Zedong Thought,” he added, “should help maintain stability and development,” when asked about violent struggles still being waged in Mao's name.
                    An attempt to avoid Mao's name from being misused ?

                    His message has been echoed by an increasingly influential New Left that has called for reviving Mao's populism to grapple with rising inequalities. Most notable among this section is the Chongqing party chief Bo Xilai, who has introduced campaigns to sing “Red songs” and emphasised more equitable economic growth. Mao Xinyu had words of praise for Mr. Bo, saying that singing red songs was “promoting China's good traditions.”
                    How is the 'New Left' In China doing ?

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                    • #11
                      What about the rest ?

                      Getting promoted by line officers is as tough as any where else. Fake ranks in research organizations and AE (entertainment corps) are much easier to get such as Mao's grand kids, just don't expect them to command any respect from any one.

                      Read this:

                      Professionalization of the senior Chinese officer corps: trends and implications
                      By James C. Mulvenon, United States. Dept. of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense, National Defense Research Institute (U.S.)

                      and I quote

                      On the second tier, midlevel
                      officers selected for promotion, usually captains or majors, are sent
                      to a command college for a one-year course, after which they return
                      to their units as battalion commanders.
                      At the highest level is the NDU. The NDU was formed in November
                      1985 by merging the PLA Military Academy, the PLA Political
                      Academy, and the PLA Logistics Academy.27 Its official mandate is to
                      train commanders at and above the division level and staff officers at
                      and above the military region level to “face the world and face

                      the future.”28 It was also specifically created to introduce “joint”
                      (multiservice) education into senior PME, which at lower levels is
                      service- and branch-based, in order to prepare senior officers for
                      high-level command and staff positions where joint operations are
                      now of central importance.29 In form and content, the NDU therefore
                      resembles Western military institutions like the United States
                      National Defense University or the General Staff Academy in the
                      former Soviet Union, both of which perform educational roles as well
                      as introduce civilian and military elites to the interagency nature of
                      national security decisionmaking and policy implementation.30
                      The NDU offers two-year courses for officers chosen to command
                      divisions, a one-year course for division and Group Army (GA) commanders
                      who will soon be promoted to flag rank, and a three-month
                      capstone course for both senior-level military and civilian personnel.
                      Students are judged by their knowledge of military science as well as
                      their mental, physical, and moral fitness, and those who receive outstanding
                      ratings are recommended to the CMC and General Political
                      Department (GPD) for promotion outside of “normal routes.”31
                      Between 1986 and 1994, the NDU trained more than 4000 students,
                      of whom 147 have been promoted to deputy army leadership posts,
                      119 to army leadership posts, 51 to deputy leadership posts in military
                      regions, and 13 to leadership posts in military regions

                      How is the 'New Left' In China doing ?

                      not doing very well. see this thread

                      http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/eas...ong-model.html
                      “the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by xinhui View Post
                        What about the rest ?

                        Getting promoted by line officers is as tough as any where else. Fake ranks in research organizations and AE (entertainment corps) are much easier to get such as Mao's grand kids, just don't expect them to command any respect from any one.

                        Read this:

                        Professionalization of the senior Chinese officer corps: trends and implications
                        By James C. Mulvenon, United States. Dept. of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense, National Defense Research Institute (U.S.)

                        and I quote
                        This is to do with the rank he got. I'm not disputing this. You want to make the case of nepotism that is fine with me. He is a princeling amongst many.

                        What i wanted to know is whether he is qualified to talk about Mao ? ofc he can always counter he is the grandson. But he is rather young and might not know everything.

                        It seems odd that he would disagree with the term maoists and give the reasons he has.

                        Colonial or not is irrelevant. The maoists see the Indian state as oppressors to be dealt with force. This caused them to break away from the communist party in the early 80s. The remainder disagreed on the point of force.

                        They will not stop until they march on Delhi and take over. That is their stated objective. From this pov its no different to what Mao himself did and they seek to emulate him.

                        Originally posted by xinhui View Post
                        How is the 'New Left' In China doing ?

                        not doing very well. see this thread

                        http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/eas...ong-model.html
                        Jut noticed it, looks interesting :)

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                        • #13
                          What i wanted to know is whether he is qualified to talk about Mao ? ofc he can always counter he is the grandson. But he is rather young and might not know everything.
                          I saw your first post.

                          Like anything else, Mao's writing (yes I have read some when I was in grad school) whatever you make it to be. All you have to do is selectively quote.
                          “the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Blademaster View Post
                            Rats! I hoped I would be the first one to post the image of Mao's latest prodigy, his grandson!
                            But you have the higher resolution. It's like arguing between the amount of scientific data produced by Sputnik compared to Discoverer.

                            I can't really see the Neo Maoists doing anything sort of a complete economic collapse. The older people remember the Cultural Revolution, and everyone else younger is doing at least well enough that they don't want to do a 180 course change.

                            I doubt Mao III had very much contact with his grandpa, incidentally.

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                            • #15
                              Yeah, the only thing that is newsworthy is that Mao's grandson said so.

                              Well, i disagree with him that maoists are misusing his grandfathers name.

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