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    How many?

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    How may defunct drydocks a large enough for a CVN?
    This is a question for those above my paygrade, but I suspect you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHatter View Post
    Mabus has already promised a return to "traditional" names.

    I'm not holding my breath.
    I'm not either, especially since Mabus has been one of the worst offenders ever. Not only that, but theoretically only gets to pick only a couple more anyway, unless Obama gets re-elected or the next president keeps him around. Even then he could claim that politicians/people are now tradition anyway, for carriers at least, since it's been 46 years since the America and 37 years since the Nimitz. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he pulled that one... So his promise is pretty hollow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfgun View Post
    How many defunct drydocks are large enough for a CVN?
    Other than, in the anti-military city of San Francisco?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisV71 View Post
    I'm not either, especially since Mabus has been one of the worst offenders ever.
    The previous 26 combined haven't disgraced the Navy as much as Mabus.

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    Not only that, but theoretically only gets to pick only a couple more anyway
    Exactly. Which is why his pledge is a joke. He'll get to name a few more, probably LCS and SSN, maybe a DDG or two. Possibly the next LHA. But almost certainly not a CVN.

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    unless Obama gets re-elected
    He will be.

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    or the next president keeps him around.[
    And unless Mabus totally screws the pooch (in a way that offends liberals), he will.

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    Even then he could claim that politicians/people are now tradition anyway, for carriers at least, since it's been 46 years since the America and 37 years since the Nimitz. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he pulled that one... So his promise is pretty hollow.
    I don't question for one minute the incongruity of carriers bearing the names of Congressmen (Vinson and Stennis) but at least those two were incomparable navalists and legislatively made 20th Century American naval hegemony a reality.

    But Chavez? Murtha?? Mabus, you must really hate the Navy don't you.

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    "But Chavez? Murtha?? Mabus, you must really hate the Navy don't you."

    Don't forget the Gabby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfgun View Post
    "But Chavez? Murtha?? Mabus, you must really hate the Navy don't you."

    Don't forget the Gabby!
    I don't really include Gabrielle Giffords in the same category as Chavez (a labor activist (?) that hated his time in the USN) and Murtha (a pork-swilling nearly-busted-in-ABSCAM and throw his brother Marines under the bus POS)
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    I agree with your assessment. But, the Gabby, is akin to as if in the 1980's a James Brady was named (it just does not compute).
    Regardless, back on topic (USS Enterprise).

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    Yes Sir !!

    Quote Originally Posted by surfgun View Post
    I agree with your assessment. But, the Gabby, is akin to as if in the 1980's a James Brady was named (it just does not compute).
    Regardless, back on topic (USS Enterprise).
    What ship will be the next to bear the proud name Enterprise ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by blidgepump View Post
    What ship will be the next to bear the proud name Enterprise ??
    It sure would be nice to see it on a CVN, have they named the one after JFK yet?
    "If your plan is for one year, plant rice. If your plan is for ten years, plant trees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USSWisconsin View Post
    It sure would be nice to see it on a CVN, have they named the one after JFK yet?
    Yes it's official, CVN-79 will be the new JFK. It was announced last May.
    My first thought was "Boy that was one name they sure didn't allow to be out commission for very long...now let's see them show the same zeal with Enterprise."

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    Has the third DDG-1000 been named yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrb1537 View Post
    Has the third DDG-1000 been named yet?
    I didn't even know the third DDG-1000 had been FUNDED yet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitch View Post
    I didn't even know the third DDG-1000 had been FUNDED yet!
    At most, probably authorized. Certainly not named. I'd be surprised if it wasn't cancelled.

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    I don't think the Navy can cancel DDG-1002. ISTR they settled on a three ship buy as it would cost more in cancellation penalties than to actually complete the vessels. The other day the Navy ordered the guns for DDG-1002: In the News Blog.

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    some minor issues with Big E.


    By Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Heath Zeigler, Enterprise Carrier Strike Group Public Affairs

    USS ENTERPRISE, At Sea (NNS) -- While getting underway from Naval Station Norfolk March 11, 2012, aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN 65) experienced extensive fouling to three of her four main engines and five of the ship's eight service turbine generators.

    Fouling occurs when any foreign debris gets built up in the impellers causing increased pressure on the main engines. It can be anything from small sea creatures to large pieces of trash sucked into the ship's systems creating a blockage.

    In this case, Bryozoa, a type of tiny fish with hair-like fibers, built up in the impellers over a period of time causing the fouling.

    This build up usually happens about once a month, but due to Enterprise being docked since July 2011, and with only short underway periods since, the build-up happened much faster and almost prevented her from moving at all.

    Prompt action on the part of the engineering department ensured that propulsion and electrical power were maintained throughout this potentially dangerous casualty.

    On March 10, a day before Enterprise was scheduled to begin its 22nd and final deployment, watchstanders in No. 2 Main Machinery Room (2MMR) noted increasing seawater injection pressure on the No. 2 main engine (2M/E), a symptom of fouling.

    "We recommended to central control that 2M/E be back-flushed," said Machinist's Mate 1st Class William P. Miller, leading petty officer of 2MMR. "The main propulsion assistant followed our recommendation and also ordered the other three main engines back-flushed as a precaution."

    The back-flushing ensured there was less strain on the propulsion plants before Enterprise pulled out to sea.

    The ship left 10 minutes earlier than expected March 11, but shortly after getting underway, indication of fouling was observed on three of the ship's service turbine generators (SSTG) and an auxiliary machinery circulation water pump.

    "We spent most of the night before and the day of deployment getting the systems flushed out," said Lt. Cmdr. John Kajmowicz, Enterprise's main propulsion assistant. "Due to outstanding performance, we were able to clean out the systems and keep us moving."

    Kajmowicz said watchstanders are the main reason why the ship continues to move forward. When there is a problem it is the watchstander who notifies central control of the situation.

    Upon noticing the indications of fouling, machinery division began to systematically open and inspect each of the eight SSTG condensers to clear out any remaining fouling. Engineers removed more than two pounds of debris from the system.

    On March 12, Capt. William C. Hamilton Jr., commanding officer of Enterprise, ordered an ahead flank bell, 171 rotations per minute, and no signs of fouling were observed on any of the main engines proving that engineering had once again kept Big E moving.

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