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  • Originally posted by popillol View Post
    The combined holdings of Japan/China in US treasury is currently 2.48 Trillion dollars. Should increase considerably more in the coming 2 decades. If they pull out simultaneously, won't the US economy crumble?
    And what would the damage to their economies be, specially the Japanese?

    Originally posted by popillol View Post
    Militarily, the Japanese might have significant knowledge of US weapons like AB destroyers, US' sensors in the China Sea to locate PLAN vessels, F-35 fighters. Won't the US be significantly compromised?
    50 years from now? F-35 will be out of service (or close)...

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    • Originally posted by popillol View Post
      The combined holdings of Japan/China in US treasury is currently 2.48 Trillion dollars. Should increase considerably more in the coming 2 decades. If they pull out simultaneously, won't the US economy crumble? Or change the world currency to Renminbi? The economy won't be able to support the US fleet much longer. If that does happen, will US militarily attack Japan/China?
      Militarily, the Japanese might have significant knowledge of US weapons like AB destroyers, US' sensors in the China Sea to locate PLAN vessels, F-35 fighters. Won't the US be significantly compromised?
      Something to keep in mind is that every dollar's worth of foreign claims on America is matched by 89 cents' worth of US claims on foreigners. Additionally, the majority of foreign US holdings are invested in safe by low yield investments like US treasury bonds. As a result, the US actually makes more from its assets abroad than it pays to foreign investors like the Chinese.

      I think you have your economics backwards here. If China and Japan decide to call in all their debts with the US simultaneously to try to destabilize the US economy, the US can always tell them to piss off. At that point China and Japan have 3 options.

      1. Agree to go back to playing by the rules.
      2. Write off their 2.48 Trillion dollar investment.
      3. Try to coerce the US to give it back via international pressure or war.

      The Japanese do have significant knowledge of certain US weapons and technology, and are a valuable ally, but the tech US kit they are most familiar with is primarily defensive in nature. The Japanese train regularly to be able to integrate into US forces and provide protection. The nature of the arrangement is that the USN is the sword, and the JMSDF is the shield. This arrangement keeps Japan from looking as threatening to their neighbors who still remember Imperial Japan's conquests, while allowing Japan to be useful to the US in a fight.

      Another aspect of this is that the US has a large number of military personnel based in Japan, and Europe who operate the more sensitive US gear that is positioned there. For example, US personnel guard forward deployed US nukes, and the locals don't get the codes to use them until the US decides to release that information in a war. As an example, this prevents any temptation by the German Army to storm Buchel Air Base to seize the US nukes there, as they would have to kill US personnel to get them, and they would be useless without the codes to arm them.

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      • China-Japan axis doesn't seem to be a reality considering the history and hostilities. But if it comes to any fruition in the coming decades, US can declare itself bankrupt (keeping the EU in the loop and India too :)), thereby defaulting on interest payouts on US government bonds. China, Japan and whoever else on that side might be - would collapse like a pack of cards.
        Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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        • You might get a Japan-Korea vs China thing... maybe... but, again, bad blood here...

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          • Government may soon sign Apache and Chinook chopper deals worth over $2.5 billion
            Politicians are elected to serve...far too many don't see it that way - Albany Rifles! || Loyalty to country always. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it - Mark Twain! || I am a far left millennial!

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            • Originally posted by jlvfr View Post
              You might get a Japan-Korea vs China thing... maybe... but, again, bad blood here...
              Fat chance of that, with Abe antagonizing Seoul on everything, especially that ridiculous Dokdo claim.

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              • Apparently with India opening more significant military equipment contracts to the West as relations improve, Russia has begun courting Pakistan in addition to China with sales of military equipment.

                http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/russi...ntury-decline/

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                • Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
                  , Russia has begun courting Pakistan in addition to China with sales of military equipment.

                  http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/russi...ntury-decline/
                  Good luck with that. Pakistan seems to have a multi-project, solid, relation with China, that gets them involved in the design and gear that they need. While at the same time having access to western gear...

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                  • Originally posted by jlvfr View Post
                    Good luck with that. Pakistan seems to have a multi-project, solid, relation with China, that gets them involved in the design and gear that they need. While at the same time having access to western gear...
                    I think it is a shortsighted mistake on Moscow's part to get some quick sales. Pakistan may buy some Russian gear, but they won't restrict themselves to any kind of exclusive relationship, nor can they afford the volume that India will be able to going forward.

                    Meanwhile, China is unlikely to be a good long term customer as their industrial base is going to let them quickly catch up to and subsequently outpace the Russian arms industry. More likely in my estimation is that the Chinese will purchase a handful of examples of tech they are interested in reverse engineering, then mass producing it for themselves.

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                    • Originally posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
                      Meanwhile, China is unlikely to be a good long term customer as their industrial base is going to let them quickly catch up to and subsequently outpace the Russian arms industry. More likely in my estimation is that the Chinese will purchase a handful of examples of tech they are interested in reverse engineering, then mass producing it for themselves.
                      As they have done before. :D

                      Indonesia has started to shop for an F-5 replacement. And Vietnam is also buying Flankers. Maybe these 2 can be better future clients...

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                      • Originally posted by jlvfr View Post
                        As they have done before. :D

                        Indonesia has started to shop for an F-5 replacement. And Vietnam is also buying Flankers. Maybe these 2 can be better future clients...
                        I'm still rooting for the Super Bug; as much as I like the F-15E/S/SA/SE, it's really too expensive for most countries (the OPEC nations being the exception), and more fighter than most countries need. The F-18E/F seems to strike the right balance between capability vs. affordability for most countries, and there is room for growth in the airframe.

                        Unfortunately, the F-18E/F/G hasn't quite reached the economies of scale required to bring the price down to a competitive range; it's a Catch-22: you need to sell enough to bring the price down, but you can't bring the price down until you sell enough.
                        "There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge

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                        • Originally posted by Stitch View Post
                          I'm still rooting for the Super Bug; as much as I like the F-15E/S/SA/SE, it's really too expensive for most countries (the OPEC nations being the exception), and more fighter than most countries need. The F-18E/F seems to strike the right balance between capability vs. affordability for most countries, and there is room for growth in the airframe.

                          Unfortunately, the F-18E/F/G hasn't quite reached the economies of scale required to bring the price down to a competitive range; it's a Catch-22: you need to sell enough to bring the price down, but you can't bring the price down until you sell enough.
                          Well, the -18 is starting to become the US alternative to the F-35. If one wants US-built aircraft but don't want/can't aford the F-35, the -18 is the way to go. Greater payload than the F-16, 2-engine safety, allready set up for drogue refueling (which is far more common outside of the US)...

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                          • uuuuh, Im pretty sure if both the USN and USMC use P&D, that those systems can be swapped easily enough.
                            Ego Numquam

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                            • M-MRCA officially cancelled

                              Since 36 is quite far from the original 126 needed/desired/wanted, I wonder if India won't end up expanding the buy...

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                              • Originally posted by jlvfr View Post
                                M-MRCA officially cancelled

                                Since 36 is quite far from the original 126 needed/desired/wanted, I wonder if India won't end up expanding the buy...
                                There are news report of another MMRCA for 90 jets. Which is shocking for reasons more than one. More so, because they cut orders this time pleading poverty.

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