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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
    Looks like the Chinese have built themselves a Rolling Airframe Missile. Minus the whole rolling bit.
    Reminds me of cross between an AT-AT imperial walker and Legos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
    Looks like the Chinese have built themselves a Rolling Airframe Missile. Minus the whole rolling bit.
    They must really not have anything better to report on. These have been in service since early 2013.

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    China Reportedly Building Military Base on Islands Near Japan

    Japan Economic Newswire | Dec 22, 2014

    China's military is building large-scale base facilities on islands near the Senkaku Islands southwest of mainland Japan, several Chinese sources said Sunday.

    Construction is under way in the Nanji Islands in Zhejiang Province, lying about 300 kilometers to the northwest of the Japanese-administered, uninhabited Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea. China claims the Senkakus as Diaoyu.

    The base is expected to enhance China's readiness to respond to potential military crises in the region as well as strengthen surveillance over the air defense identification zone it declared over part of the East China Sea in November last year, the sources said.

    According to the sources, several large radar installations have been built at high points on the main Nanji Island. Several landing strips have been paved, likely for use by aircraft based on warships or patrol vessels, and more landing strips are set to be built on an island adjacent to Nanji Island from around next year.

    As the archipelago of 52 islands and islets is located about 100 km closer to the Senkakus than Okinawa's main island, home to bases of the Japanese Self-Defense Forces and the U.S. military, the new base is likely to shake up Japan-U.S. security strategies relating to the Senkakus' defense.

    The continued expansion of China's interests in the East China Sea comes after Japan-China relations tainted by territorial and wartime historical issues were somewhat thawed by a meeting between Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing in November.

    Military expansion may necessitate the relocation of the roughly 2,500 civilians who live in the archipelago, most engaged in fishing, as well as the restriction of tourism at the summer vacation spot.

    The U.N. Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization listed 15 of the islands as a biosphere reserve in 1998, reflecting the diversity of the archipelago's marine life.
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    I'd like to see the reaction from Japan and China if the U.S. moved 9000 Marines out of Okinawa and into a new base on the Senkaku Islands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
    I'd like to see the reaction from Japan and China if the U.S. moved 9000 Marines out of Okinawa and into a new base on the Senkaku Islands.
    Laughing their assess of.

    Have you seen the Daiyou/Senkaku? There's not even fresh water there. There's a reason why neither side has stationed troops there. It's a freaking damned miserable place to live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveDaPirate View Post
    I'd like to see the reaction from Japan and China if the U.S. moved 9000 Marines out of Okinawa and into a new base on the Senkaku Islands.
    Sorry dude, 9 men would have trouble surviving on this piece of rock, let alone 9000.

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    Last post in this thread was ~1 year ago, but it seems to be an appropriate place to post this.


    China Tells U.S. to Stop Flexing Military Muscle in Asia

    12/21/2015 - Bloomberg Government

    • U.S. should respect China's core interests, Wang Tells Kerry
    • Conversation follows B-52 flight over China-claimed island

    The U.S. should cease sending ships and planes to China’s South China Sea islands, stop showing off its military might and respect China’s core interests, Foreign Minister Wang Yi told Secretary of State John Kerry.

    “The world is facing multifaceted challenges and needs multi-party cooperation to handle that,” Wang said in a phone conversation Sunday with Kerry, according to a foreign ministry statement. “While the U.S. is seeking Chinese cooperation, it also should respect China’s core interests and major concerns.”

    Wang’s comments follow a report in the Wall Street Journal that a U.S. B-52 bomber mistakenly flew within two nautical miles of Cuarteron Reef in the disputed Spratly Island group in the South China Sea. China dumped tons of dredged sand onto the reef, turning it into an artificial island in the summer of 2014, according to the Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative, a website devoted to tracking maritime security issues in Asia.

    The U.S. and China have been at loggerheads since October when the U.S. sailed a warship within 12 nautical miles of an island China built on a previously semi-submerged reef. China’s claim to more than 80 percent of the waters is contested by Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan.

    China’s foreign ministry in a statement urged the U.S. “to reflect upon and correct its mistake, take effective measures to prevent similar dangerous and provocative actions from happening and stop doing anything that hurts China’s sovereignty and security interests.”

    Bad weather had contributed to the pilot of the B-52 flying off course and into the area claimed by China, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing Pentagon spokesman Bill Urban. The Pentagon is investigating why one of two B-52s on a routine patrol unintentionally flew into the airspace, he said.

    China’s Defense Ministry said Dec. 19 that both B-52s had flown into Chinese airspace on Dec. 10, in a “serious military provocation” that prompted troops on the island to go into high alert, and warn the planes to leave.

    Wang also requested that the U.S. stop selling arms to Taiwan, an island China regards as a province. The U.S. last week said it would sell $1.83 billion in arms to Taiwan, its first such sale in four years.

    The Wang-Kerry conversation followed the unanimous adoption Saturday by the United Nations Security Council of a resolution endorsing a political transition to end Syria’s civil war. Wang said China hopes this will be a good opportunity to press ahead with a political solution to the Syrian issue.

    The U.S. State Department hasn’t yet published an account of the conversation.

    --With assistance from Ting Shi.
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    Perhaps, the US, Japan and S. Korea should send some sand dredges to build some islands in proximity to these "Chinese" islands to help nullify their claim?

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    Or maybe China should file a complaint with the World Court about the US overflying her fake islands.

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    This is all part of the "pivot to Asia" strategy.
    "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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    China: South China Sea War Games Underway

    Posted by Joseph Keefe
    Reporting by Ben Blanchard
    Friday, December 18, 2015
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    China's military carried out war games in the disputed South China Sea this week, with warships, submarines and fighter jets simulating cruise missile strikes on ships, the official People's Liberation Army Daily said on Friday.

    In a front page story, the newspaper said the drill was carried out on Wednesday across "several thousand square kilometres" of waters somewhere in the South China Sea. The Philippines, Brunei, Vietnam, Malaysia and Taiwan have overlapping claims.

    The U.S. Pacific Fleet Commander on Monday warned of a possible arms race in the disputed South China Sea which could engulf the region, as nations become increasingly tempted to use military force to settle territorial spats.

    The forces were split into two teams, red and blue, as military commanders threw various scenarios at them, including an accidental missile strike on a commercial ship operated by a third party, the paper said.

    The warships also simulated deflecting anti-ship missile attacks, and operating in concert with submarines, early warning aircraft and fighter jets, the report added.

    China periodically announces such exercises in the South China Sea, as it tries to demonstrate it is being transparent about its military deployments.

    On Sunday, the Defence Ministry said the navy had recently carried out drills in the South China Sea. It was not clear if the exercises referred to by the newspaper and these drills were the same.

    China has been at odds with the United States of late over the strategic waterway.

    Washington has criticized Beijing's building of artificial islands in the South China Sea's disputed Spratly archipelago, and has conducted sea and air patrols near them.

    Last month, U.S. B-52 bombers flew near some of China's artificial islands and at the end of October a U.S. guided-missile destroyer sailed within 12 nautical miles of one of them.

    China expressed concern last week about an agreement between the United States and Singapore to deploy a U.S. P8 Poseidon spy plane to the city state, saying the move was aimed at militarising the region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbm3fan View Post
    Or maybe China should file a complaint with the World Court about the US overflying her fake islands.
    ICJ? US recognizes it.now?
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    China to US: Don't Sensationalize S.China Sea Dispute

    by Eric Haun
    Wednesday, March 02, 2016
    Marinelink.com

    China's Foreign Ministry urged the United States on Wednesday not to sensationalize the South China Sea dispute after U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said Beijing's actions there would have consequences.

    Carter on Tuesday warned China against "aggressive" actions in the South China Sea region, including the placement of surface-to-air missiles on a disputed island.

    (Reporting by Adam Rose; Writing by Michael Martina; Editing by Nick Macfie)
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    Jackson/Quirino Atoll west of Palawan in the South China Sea.

    Chinese Ships Have Taken Over an Atoll in the South China Sea, Reports Say

    3/2/2016
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    China has seized a disputed atoll off the coast of the Philippines in the South China Sea, Philippine media reported on Wednesday, with at least five Chinese ships denying access to Filipino fishermen.

    The ships now effectively control Quirino Atoll — also known as Jackson Atoll — a spot heavily frequented by fishermen from the nearby Palawan province and several other parts of the country, the Philippine Star newspaper reported.

    Local fishermen, requesting anonymity, told the Philippine Star that they were chased away from the area by Chinese boats last week, while the mayor of the northern city of Kalayaan said China has had vessels stationed there for over a month.

    “They have many ships there,” Mayor Eugenio Bitoonon Jr. said, although he did not provide details.

    Brigadier-General Restituto Padilla, a Philippine military spokesman, told Reuters that they were “still verifying” reports of the Chinese presence.

    “We want to make sure if the presence is permanent,” he said.

    The Philippines is one of several countries — along with Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and Taiwan — disputing China’s control of the Spratly island chain in the South China Sea and its claim that the water body is its sovereign territory. China appears to have stepped up its ever-increasing military presence in the region recently, with its deployment of missiles and fighter jets on yet another disputed island last month drawing the ire of the U.S.
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    Couldn't possibly get further away from China where that atoll is. The fact that Filipino fisherman, in their dilapidated boats can get there shows how close it is to Palawan. Nonetheless, the Philippines is so incompetent that they deserve most of what happens to them. If they had maintained their Coast Guard patrol in the region then it would have been less likely that the Chinese would have taken the opportunity to fill the vacuum. Hell, the Filipino fisherman should have stood their ground and forced the Chinese to take action or call their bluff.

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