I would think belt feed would be a priority, with this one the enemy would just follow the trail of empty mags. C mags would help, and it comes with a pouch for carry, then there is the double wide 60 round banana mag, but then you have to replace all the vests and pouches to accept the wider mags. In short, I like the shrike, wish they would abolish the GCA 1968 so I could own one.
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Have they fixed C-Mag's reliability issues? The last time they limited-issued it to the Rangers it did not get rave reviews.All those who are merciful with the cruel will come to be cruel to the merciful.
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Originally posted by Triple C View PostHave they fixed C-Mag's reliability issues? The last time they limited-issued it to the Rangers it did not get rave reviews.
Not sure if they fixed C-mag issues, they are making them for a lot more firearms though.CADPIPE
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Originally posted by cadpipe View PostI would think belt feed would be a priority, with this one the enemy would just follow the trail of empty mags. C mags would help, and it comes with a pouch for carry, then there is the double wide 60 round banana mag, but then you have to replace all the vests and pouches to accept the wider mags. In short, I like the shrike, wish they would abolish the GCA 1968 so I could own one.
Technically, the Shrike is classified as an UPPER, meaning you could mail order one tomorrow... if you can find one for sale. They're out there, but about $5K each due to demand. The Shrike isn't even classed as a firearm. Of course, its functionality (semi or full auto) is based upon whatever lower it is mounted on.
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Originally posted by Chogy View PostCadpipe, are you in a non-NFA (Machine gun) State?
Technically, the Shrike is classified as an UPPER, meaning you could mail order one tomorrow... if you can find one for sale. They're out there, but about $5K each due to demand. The Shrike isn't even classed as a firearm. Of course, its functionality (semi or full auto) is based upon whatever lower it is mounted on.CADPIPE
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What about the LSAT program? Does anyone have an update on how the development programs for the LMG and it's rifle derivative are going?If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.
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http://www.aaicorp.com/pdfs/lsatps09-09-08.pdf
I found a little PDF of info on one of the prototypes. As far as I can tell the LSAT and related programs are going at a relatively sluggish pace due to ongoing budget cuts, etc. I don't expect a very active competition for a new rifle and LMG until much later or even the next decade. Crossing my fingers for a decent caseless design..."Draft beer, not people."
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Originally posted by Red Team View Posthttp://www.aaicorp.com/pdfs/lsatps09-09-08.pdf
I found a little PDF of info on one of the prototypes. As far as I can tell the LSAT and related programs are going at a relatively sluggish pace due to ongoing budget cuts, etc. I don't expect a very active competition for a new rifle and LMG until much later or even the next decade. Crossing my fingers for a decent caseless design...
Maybe the developers are "guilding the lilly" a little with regards to the systems level of readiness (in the time honoured fashion of Defence Contractors everywhere :)) but it does seem like the the LMG at least could be close to having a shot at being adopted the DoD.If you are emotionally invested in 'believing' something is true you have lost the ability to tell if it is true.
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I forgot that decades ago, Colt offered their LMG variant for their M-16. The LMG included a heavy-barreled upper, and replacement fire-control components that changed the system from closed to open bolt.
LMG uppers are prized collector's items these days, and are still available. But the fundamental problems still remained - magazine fed, and fixed barrel. No barrel swapping when it gets too hot. IIRC the LMG upper came about at a time when the U.S. Army and Marines were getting away from the full-auto switch and going back to a more disciplined semi-auto fire, with all of this culminating in the use of the BURST switch replacing the AUTO switch on the weapon.
Colt LMG:
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Originally posted by Chogy View PostHeh - I've heard of wealthy Kommiefornia gun people buy a house in Nevada just to keep a cool gun stash there.
Maybe I could get together with a few friends and buy a small house in Vegas just for this. Houses are dirt cheap in Vegas right now. $50k can get you enough for short visits. The annoying thing is the property tax, utility bills, and other misc. maintenance."Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
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Originally posted by gunnut View PostI would do that if I had the spare cash.
Maybe I could get together with a few friends and buy a small house in Vegas just for this. Houses are dirt cheap in Vegas right now. $50k can get you enough for short visits. The annoying thing is the property tax, utility bills, and other misc. maintenance.CADPIPE
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Originally posted by Chogy View PostI forgot that decades ago, Colt offered their LMG variant for their M-16. The LMG included a heavy-barreled upper, and replacement fire-control components that changed the system from closed to open bolt.
LMG uppers are prized collector's items these days, and are still available. But the fundamental problems still remained - magazine fed, and fixed barrel. No barrel swapping when it gets too hot. IIRC the LMG upper came about at a time when the U.S. Army and Marines were getting away from the full-auto switch and going back to a more disciplined semi-auto fire, with all of this culminating in the use of the BURST switch replacing the AUTO switch on the weapon.
Colt LMG:
"There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge
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Unfortunately no, Stitch, the Colt LMG is still 95% AR in origin. The Stoner 63 was/is very different. The Navy SEALs in SEA loved the Stoner for its firepower, but they had the discipline to maintain the weapon very well. Original transferable Stoners are one of the pinnacles of civilian NFA ownership in the States, and a nice example can fetch $75,000. Eugene Stoner isn't quite Browning, but he's close, IMO. It was Stoner that started (or at least accelerated) the revolution in non-traditional materials for military weapons.
Steel & wood --> aluminum & polymers
You're not using that to claim the AR is some kind of unreliable abomination are you?
The tragedy with that whole govt contract stuff is, I think an M-4 costs the govt about 15,000 or so(anyone feel free to correct me here). I could go to a gun show, find the exact same parts and build one for less than $2000
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