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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironduke View Post
    Is Germany seeing a lot of "cross-pollination", if you will, between American and German groups?
    In my opinion not as much as it used to, and mostly through the traditional networks such as Blood & Honour or skinhead associations. There's plenty of contacts with other European groups: from National Action in the UK to the Azov Batallion in Ukraine (they were openly recruiting at the last such festival a year ago), from Sweden's Nordic Resistance Movement to - more recently - contacts with the Assad regime. Not hearing much about cross-atlantic ties on this side though. Part of the reason for that may be a difference in level of ambition - evident in those groups German neonazis have contact with - while another part may be that the remaining infrastructure of the much smaller US hard-right takes some effort to be accessible from over here (Stormfront and such are banned in Germany).

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    German police bust human trafficking ring linked to Reichsbürger scene

    Three people have been arrested in northern Germany on suspicion of trafficking Moldovan nationals on fake Romanian passports. Evidence suggests the networks may have links to the far-right Reichsbürger scene.

    Some 800 German police officers in the German states Bremen, Hamburg and Lower Saxony raided several apartments and offices connected to a human trafficking ring late on Monday and in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

    According to local media reports, three men were arrested — two Germans and a Russian national — on suspicion of smuggling Moldovan citizens into Germany on fake Romanian passports and employing them in security services.

    Police said they had been investigating the smugglers since October last year. At least five other people are believed to be part of the trafficking network, including an Austrian family that reportedly owns the security firm that illegally employed the trafficked Moldovans.

    The company had allegedly won contracts to supply security services on Hamburg's ports, a number of constructions sites and even homes for asylum seekers.

    Connections to the Reichsbürger

    Reports also suggested that police found evidence linking at least one of the traffickers, the accountant for the security firm, to the far-right Reichsbürger movement. The accountant's ex-husband and son reportedly run the security company. According to local media, the accountant — whose office was raided overnight on Monday — is currently living with a former officer from Germany's special SEK police unit.

    The term Reichsbürger, which roughly translates as "Citizens of the Reich," is used as a label for a loosely connected group that rejects the legitimacy of Germany's federal government. Its followers believe that the 1937 borders of the German Empire still exist and that today's Germany is an administrative construct in a country still occupied by foreign powers. Many also subscribe to far-right or anti-Semitic ideologies.

    German authorities estimate that some 18,000 people subscribe to the movement, around 1,000 of whom identify with extreme right-wing ideology.

    The threat posed by the group has become increasingly prominent since late 2016, after one of its members in Bavaria opened fire on a group of police officers during a raid, killing one.

    Probes into the far-right have since uncovered a handful of public servants who identify with the movement, including four civil servants in the state of Hesse, three police officers in Saxony and policeman in Bavaria.
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    The Reichsbürger group that those Austrians belong to is considered to be extremist, but not rightwing. The accountant is the self-declared mayor of a Reichsbürger community of about 30 active participants which is under surveillance by the Verfassungsschutz in Saxony-Anhalt.

    The Reichsbürger connection is not considered vital to the arrests, it's predominantly about exploiting illegal immigrants. Most of the officers in the raids were therefore Federal Customs Service - not police. Customs in Germany has checking for illegal work and social security fraud as part of its portfolio. Beyond the three arrested there are ten others under suspicion of belonging to the trafficking group, including also Russians and Ukrainians. 49 illegal immigrants were also arrested as part of the raids. Investigations against the group had been ongoing since October 2017.

    Without the Reichsbürger connection it wouldn't have made the press though. Raids against human trafficking networks occur pretty much at least once every week. Today for example police in Munich arrested some traffickers accused of smuggling about 40 people from Turkey onboard trucks. The agency press release in the German press on that is about six lines. The last large raid was against human trafficking with prostitutes btw. Exactly one month ago, 1600 officers involved to grab a near-60-year-old Thai woman who was the ringleader of a network of over 50 people.

    According to local media, the accountant — whose office was raided overnight on Monday — is currently living with a former officer from Germany's special SEK police unit.
    The "former" is because the man was suspended for his own Reichsbürger connections.

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    Update for the NSU case, still ongoing:

    - The defense lawyer for Andre E. (that's the guy with the "Die Jew Die" tattoo) held his defense speech, going through it as agreed with his client.
    - He opened this speech with "Our client is a national socialist who will stand for his convictions neck and crop".
    - As part of his defense he explained how his client was obviously "not yet a full nazi" at the time of his crimes, just another kid skinhead - citing that when military intelligence during his conscript service inquired about his tattoos he mistakenly told them that one of them was a Waffen-SS slogan - instead of a Hitlerjugend slogan.
    - He also basically stated that his client is after all only accused in this case because of him being a National Socialist.

    If you do not get the date - today, May 8th, is V-E Day.

    And to continue with the "Heer/Stahl/Sturm" theme of Zschäpe's laywers: Andre E.'s court-appointed main defense lawyer, the one holding the above speech, is only missing the y for his name to be Heydrich.
    Like Zschäpe, E. also asked for a new lawyer - and finally got one two weeks ago. That lawyer - the only volunteer on his bench - laid down his mandate immediately following the above speech citing insurmountable differences with his client.
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    Doubt this will hit any media outlets outside Germany:

    As background from Newsweek, more there:
    Fake News, the Frankfurt 'Sex Mob' and Why Germany Has Taken an Aggressive Stance Against False News Stories

    The story played on some of Germany’s worst fears.
    Just after 1 a.m. on New Year's Day, in a crowded bar in Frankfurt, a group of roughly 50 “Arab” men, as the bar’s owner, Jan Mai, later said, stumbled in and soon began to dance, push and grope female customers, some of them putting their hands up the women’s skirts.
    It was a “sex mob,” involving “masses” of migrants, or at least that’s how Bild, a popular German tabloid, described it after an interview with Mai. The story went viral on social media after right-wing outlets like Breitbart News picked it up.

    In a press conference on February 14, the police announced that the allegations were baseless. Now, McCormack tells Newsweek, Mai and Irina are under investigation for starting false rumors and wasting police time.
    The two "under investigation" in the above were:
    • German national Jan M., 50, a club owner in Frankfurt with plenty of "contacts" that included certain Hells Angels chapters and the mafia; former investment banker; plenty of details that firmly put him in a nationalist-xenophobic scene too.
    • Serbian national Irina A., 29, supposedly "working as a waitress" in one of his bars - while herself owner of various real estate and businesses herself - also with contacts among biker gangs and the redlight scene.

    By now only Jan M. will go on trial when it starts on June 8th.
    His co-conspirator Irina A. was killed a few days ago. Police arrested M. for it yesterday after analyzing his cell phone's movement.

    "Right-wing outlets" similar to the one cited above in the original story of course place suspicion towards the "other contacts" above, while also pretty crudely putting up the Frankfurt Sex Mob story as not proven fake with some clever application of quotation marks around words and conditionalizing sentences.

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    Updates for NSU case:

    Zschäpe's defense is getting a bit... haywire. More than it already was. She has three court-appointed lawyers (Heer, Stahl, Sturm) that she has refused to talk to for the past three years, plus a fourth court-appointed and one paid-for lawyer who she cooperates with. The Heer, Stahl, Sturm team are basically just doing their job properly as they should, despite her non-cooperation - even if they've repeatedly been trying to get out of the job, and she's trying to get rid of them anyway.

    These two teams have by now pleaded different defenses. And to top that the team that she refuses to talk to is the one that are trying to get more for her out of it - i.e. a conviction for simple arson. The other two pleaded for a conviction on general arson. Both carry a 10-year maximum sentence, the difference is that with "simple arson" what they're demanding is that she be released until the end of the trial since she's already done more than 2/3rds of that in jailtime so far. Both teams refuse any of the other accusations she's charged with (murder, terrorism and so on).

    The arson component of her trial is about her setting fire to her own apartment after the other two of the NSU trio shot themselves. Both teams acknowledge the arson, the Heer, Stahl, Sturm team though claims she didn't intend to harm others when doing so, and that it was a complete surprise to her that dumping gasoline all over the flat could result in it effectively acting as a fuel-air explosive when lit - like it did.


    Holger G. had his defense team deliver their final speech in May. They claim that since NSU after 2007 was only robbing banks and not killing foreigners he was only supporting a criminal organization, not a terrorist one - and demanded "under two years" as maximum sentence. Holger G., for some detail, provided his own IDs repeatedly for one of the two men of NSU and basically schooled him - with regular updates - in how to pretend to be him. There were similar illegal actions in the 1990s between him and NSU - buying a health insurance card from a friend for Zschäpe, delivering a gun to them once - but those have hit the 10-year statute of limitations before he was charged (the gun would have had a higher one, but it couldn't be tied to any NSU shootings). Federal Attorney is only asking for five years too - from a 10-year maximum sentence - partly because he was very cooperative in investigations.


    Ralf Wohlleben ... well, his defense is a story in itself. Wohlleben is the NPD party official. His main defense attorney? His former deputy in the NPD. Who herself is under Verfassungsschutz surveillance. For the last 22 years. Her current avenue is that she's trying to convince the court to hear a witness who supposedly provided the NSU with a perfectly identical copy of the Ceska pistol that Wohlleben is charged with providing (the gun was used in 9 out of 10 NSU murders).

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    P.S., to remind ourselves:

    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    Trial is starting in a couple weeks, with 85 planned court dates reaching into January 2014
    We're on court day 480.

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    Racism is socially acceptable in Germany, says lawyer in neo-Nazi trial

    The impending verdict in Germany's notorious NSU murder trial will not end the work of lawyer Mehmet Daimagüler. The son of Turkish immigrants fights racism in Germany, which he says is "socially acceptable."

    After a five-year-long trial, a verdict is finally expected in the coming days in Germany's far-right extremist National Socialist Underground (NSU) case, which centers on multiple racially motivated murders committed by the terror group between 2000 and 2007. It will be the end of a long era for Mehmet Daimagüler, who represents several co-plaintiffs, relatives of those who were killed.

    Daimagüler is not just a successful lawyer, but also the author of books and newspaper articles that have raised heated debate about racism in Germany. He has personally experienced what it means to be discriminated against and to overcome almost insurmountable obstacles.

    Born in 1968 in Siegen to Turkish parents, Daimagüler faced an uphill struggle from day one. "We were always treated as foreigners. We did not have German citizenship and only had a temporary residency permit." Whenever his family dealt with German authorities, they were made to feel they did not belong in the country, he recalls.

    These experiences shaped Daimagüler, and most likely influenced his decision to fight racism and promote integration. He highlights an odd paradox: "On the one hand, we were always told to integrate, and on the other we were expected to leave the country as soon as possible."

    Daimagüler was confronted with racism throughout his childhood. The parents of German kids openly rejected him. His primary school teacher suggested sending him to a special needs school. But despite all this, Daimagüler persevered, going to high school and later even studying at the American Ivy League universities Harvard and Yale.

    Defending murder victims' relatives

    All this helps understand why Daimagüler later went on to represent several co-plaintiffs at Germany's NSU murder trial — a job that means a lot to him. Daimagüler represents the siblings of Abdurrahim Özüdogru, who was murdered on June 13, 2001 while working in his tailor shop in Nuremberg, as well as the daughter of Ismail Yasar, who was also killed in Nuremberg on June 9, 2005.

    Between 2000 and 2007, Germany's neo-Nazi NSU cell murdered eight individuals of Turkish decent, one individual of Greek heritage, and a German police officer. For a long time, German investigators had classified the killings as "migrant-on-migrant crime." Daimgüler, who between 2000 and 2007 worked as an assistant to numerous high-ranking politicians in the Free Democratic Party (FDP), suspected the murders were in fact racially motivated, but he did not speak out.

    "As a Turk, talking about racism would have had negative political consequences," he explains. Looking back, he now feels ashamed of having been so cynical, and has apologized to the relatives of murdered NSU victims.

    Read more: NSU victims' families sue German government over investigation errors

    Why did investigators discount a racist motive?

    Despite witness reports saying two German-looking men had been spotted at the crime scenes (supposedly NSU killers Uwe Böhnhardt and Uwe Mundlos), German investigators believed the murders had been committed exclusively by foreigners, the lawyer explains. "We need to acknowledge the racism of the Nazis, but we also need to acknowledge that the police were racist for not believing that Turkish individuals could actually be victims," Daimagüler says.

    He's also convinced the NSU terror triumvirate Uwe Mundlos, Uwe Böhnhardt and Beate Zschäpe had been part of a wider network that supported their murder spree. He thinks assuming the NSU consisted of only the trio is implausible. The fact that four other suspects are on trial alongside Zschäpe makes that plain, argues Daimagüler. "During the trial 24 witnesses admitted having had direct contact these individuals," he adds. "They supplied the NSU with weapons, money, places to stay and documents."

    Widely accepted forms of racism

    Daimagüler not only wants those responsible for the NSU murders brought to justice; he also fights against forms of everyday racism. In an effort to initiate public debate on the matter, Daimagüler writes books about xenophobia. His first one, published in 2011, caused heated debate. Carrying the subtitle "The Fairy Tale of Failed Integration," it examines the notion of one's homeland and what it means to immigrants, as well as how being marginalized by mainstream society hinders integration.

    Read more: 'People, not monsters': Controversial films on NSU murders show in Germany

    In 2017 Daimagüler published his latest book, "Outrage is Not Enough! Our State Has Failed. Now it's Our Turn" (Empörung reicht nicht! Unser Staat hat versagt. Jetzt sind wir dran), in which he draws a personal verdict regarding the (still ongoing) NSU trial. He argues that a racist mentality explains the German state's failure to stop the murders. "We are today faced with a socially accepted from of racism," argues 50-year-old Daimagüler. "It assumes that 'our' culture is superior to that of Muslims or Jews." But, Daimagüler argues, nobody is willing to talk about this racism.

    He says he is glad the NSU trial is winding down. Over the years, he found himself face-to-face with the main NSU suspect Zschäpe and several other suspects. These years have had a profound impact on him and have strengthened his resolve to fight all forms of racism, wherever they may manifest themselves.

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    Aaaand... it's come to an end.

    Beate Zschäpe given life in German neo-Nazi murder trial

    After a five-year trial, a member of a neo-Nazi gang has been found guilty of 10 racially-motivated murders.

    Beate Zschäpe was the main defendant on trial over the murder of eight ethnic Turks, a Greek citizen and a policewoman between 2000 and 2007.

    The verdict carries an automatic life sentence.

    The connection between the murders was only discovered by chance in 2011, after a botched robbery led to the neo-Nazi group's discovery.

    Zschäpe shared a flat in the eastern town of Zwickau with two men, who died in an apparent suicide pact. The bodies of Uwe Mundlos and Uwe Böhnhardt were found in a burnt-out caravan used in the robbery.

    Zschäpe, Mundlos and Böhnhardt had formed a cell called the National Socialist Underground (NSU). An explosion at their home - apparently in an attempt to destroy evidence - led to Zschäpe turning herself in.

    The NSU's seven-year campaign exposed serious shortcomings in the German state's monitoring of neo-Nazis, and led to a public inquiry into how German police failed to discover the murder plot.

    Four other defendants were also given jail terms for their role in helping the NSU gang:

    • Ralf Wohlleben, a former official of the far-right National Democratic Party (NPD), was sentenced to 10 years for procuring the Ceska pistol with silencer used in nine murders. He was convicted of aiding and abetting murder.
    • Carsten S was given three years of juvenile detention. He is believed to have been a key contact for the Zwickau cell during their secret life, and was found guilty of handing the gang the Ceska pistol and silencer
    • André E was given two years and six months for helping a terrorist group. He had visited the Zwickau trio often, sometimes with his children, helping to give the neo-Nazis an air of normality.
    • Holger G received three years for giving his birth certificate and other ID to Uwe Mundlos, to protect him from the police.

    The court also found "grave guilt" with Zschäpe which means that instead of a parole hearing in 15 years they'll only then set when to have a possible parole hearing. Factually in a sentence it means that a person will only be released for old age or heavy sickness, basically to live out the last year or so of their life outside prison. Zschäpe is 43.

    Andre E. was acquitted of the charge of assistance to murder, hence why his sentence is that low. This verdict seems to be partly centered around Zschäpe's account that he knew of the NSU's bank robberies, but not of their murders when supporting them. The prosecution had asked for 12 years for him.

    Holger G. also got off easy; the prosecution had asked for 5 years for him, his defense lawyers tried for "under 2 years". Verdict is pretty much in the middle.
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    Hans-Georg Maassen, the president of the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), Germany's domestic intelligence service, told the DPA news agency that the latest police crackdowns had seen the number of Reichsbürger with a firearms permit fall below the 1,000 mark.
    According to the latest BfV estimates, 920 members of the far-right scene still own firearms, around 700 fewer than last year. However, that latest numbers show that up to 7 percent of suspected Reichsbürger still have a permit to own sporting or hunting rifles — far higher than the national average of 2 percent.

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