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    Really useless,those Nazis.Why it has to be a pension provider?Why,ohhh,why?
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    Gee, except it wasn't. Read the news. And not your whatever stuff, but something grounded in reality.

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    • Daily Tagesspiegel reports they got an admission statement by email, this time from neonazis, that also announces an attack on counterdemonstrations against a AfD party rally in Dortmund on the 22nd.
    • Any IS connection (as claimed by the first admission statement found) has pretty much been ruled out by police; the admission letter lacks standard IS rhethorics but wildly mixes random statements.
    • Springer press claims that police is currently investigating whether the explosive used came from Bundeswehr stocks
    • Second supposedly investigated venue is a foreign intelligence service, since the detonators used supposedly were military and the setup was done professionally with remote detonation.

    The above email is largely considered just some copycat though. Federal Attorney is investigating it of course. The possible Bundeswehr connection does point in a particular political direction though.

    The arrested Iraqi and the suspected German islamist have both been cleared from suspicion in the case. The Iraqi is being held though as a former foreign fighter who left Germany to fight for IS (in Iraq) in early 2015 and returned during 2016. The town he's from is considered a hotbed of salafists in Germany, and police arrested a number of people trying to make for Iraq or Syria there around the same time in 2015. There's currently a parliamentary inquiry regarding why he wasn't arrested earlier, or rather why he was kept under observation for such a long time, and under what kind of observation (though i really, really doubt we'll get an answer to that).

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    Suspect has been arrested. Sergej W., 28 year old Russian living in South Germany.

    Motive wasn't terrorist but criminal. The suspect was placing put options on shares of the soccer club with the intention to get some 3.9 million cash once the shares would crash after the attack. He got a room at the same hotel as the team - with a street view, asking for a different room when he got one without - and used that to watch when he'd have to remote-detonate the bombs. He also used the hotel wifi for the stock deal. One of the three bombs was placed too high for its firing angle - on a fence post - and blew its load over the bus, thus preventing more serious repercussions. The bombs each fired off a spread of 70mm-long 15g nails in the direction of the bus at lethal speed; one of these nails was found over 250m from the detonation.

    Police had multiple angles for investigations - the bank reported the stock deal for possible moneylaundering, the hotel staff thought he was suspicious because after the attack he calmly went to the hotel restaurant for a steak dinner. The suspect had been sought - undercover - since April 13th, i.e. two days after the attack. Police had him under surveillance from the next morning for a full week before the arrest, to also find out whether he was "connected".
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    A Bundeswehr officer was arrested today in a somewhat curious case.

    Apparently the German-born man - with an Italian first name - was stationed as a soldier in France and during vacations pretended to be a christian-orthodox Syrian refugee in Germany - one who could not speak Arabic for some odd reason. He was cycled through some refugee centers in Hessen and Bavaria and even filed an asylum request at some point; he was careful not to get caught, only using the bank card for the account that government money as a refugee was paid into within a single district in Bavaria where he was assigned an apartment. Meanwhile he was back on duty in France most of the time, shifting back and forward between identities.

    In January this year he was observed hiding a pistol at Vienna airport in Austria, where police arrested him when he came back to retrieve it a few days later. Police in Austria deported him with a small illegal weapons charge. Apparently that charge - for a Bundeswehr officer - was enough to raise some surveillance with German authorities though for the next couple weeks and months. During this surveillance they found that he was plotting a terrorist attack together with a friend from his hometown. They arrested both guys today today and raided 16 locations in Germany, Austria and France - including refugee homes that he lived in under his refugee identity and his quarters at the base he was stationed at. At the place of the friend they found devices suitable to raise charges for violations of weapons laws, explosives laws and war weapon control laws - in other words at least automatic weapons or grenades. From propaganda material found both are assumed to have a neonazi political conviction. The soldier was arrested during a commando training course at the Infantry School of the Bundeswehr in Hammelburg, Bavaria.

    Suspicion against the two is currently for plotting a terrorist attack that - in a convoluted way - they would then blame on refugees using the second identity of the officer.
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    The Austrian arrest was what apparently got him caught on the double identity: Austrian authorities gave his fingerprints to the German Criminal Police who checked their databases - and found the asylum seeker identity instead of his real name that he had given in Austria. Austrian police also found suspicious material in his files on his smartphone etc that they informed German police about; as a consequence, investigations began a week later.

    The raided apartment in Austria belonged to an Austrian reserve soldier that he had regular contact with. The "devices" found at the friend's apartment in Germany included ammunition, hand grenades and some explosives; he claims he got those from the officer.

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