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    That was why we had the fucking idiot Wesley Clark in command of the Kosovo War!

    Colonel, this has to be the most accurate, pithy and outstanding statement you have ever posted on the WAB!!!
    "The genius of you Americans is that you make no clear-cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something to them we are missing." - Gamal Abdel Nasser

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    How does the BMD shield enhance security for our eastern allies? Beyond getting a few American feet on the ground.
    My point is that without security for CEE nations or as you might call it 'New Europe' you would be in a far worse position than you are now - and reliant on US support. You speak of 'European unity' but do not regard the security of the nations east of you as not your concern. How is this 'European unity'?


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    North Stream was signed years before we absorbed the East to broaden our cheap labour base. And connects Germany with German-owned gas fields. Which are inconveniently located in Russia.
    For which Schroeder signed off a 3bn loan a week before he left office and then went to work on the board of the company (Gazprom) to which he had just signed off the loan. Normal business right?

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    And, please, bullying Greece? The opinion on the street here is that we shouldn't be giving Greece a single red cent.
    Yet over $400bn worth of loans to keep your euro club together which just happens to be good for German exports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapper View Post
    You speak of 'European unity' but do not regard the security of the nations east of you as not your concern.
    We've been financing those nations east of us for the past 20 years, going to the extent where half their militaries consist of donated German equipment.

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    For which Schroeder signed off a 3bn loan a week before he left office and then went to work on the board of the company (Gazprom) to which he had just signed off the loan. Normal business right?
    Except according to investigations into that Schröder never knew about the loan (which was actually collateral, not a loan). Finance minister Clement signed off on it. The government's offer of a loan was rejected by Gazprom two weeks later btw. Schröder's managing business (incl. being bought by a major company with interest in doing business with the government) is pretty normal - if a bit too legal - for a German chancellor, so yeah, it's really business as usual.

    Realistically, what people bemoaned more about Schröder's government afterwards was:
    a) the anti-social reform of welfare in Germany and
    b) handing out immigration visa to pretty much everyone in the former Soviet Union who claimed to be ethnic German.

    Then again - they voted for him, their own fault. I didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by snapper View Post
    Yet over $400bn worth of loans to keep your euro club together
    Well, we're not spending a single red cent on preventing Brexit, so... not everything is worth it. And the UK is a bit more relevant for exports from Germany than Greece. Funny though that the majority of the German population thinks the exact other way around. Let Greece crash, force the Brits back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapper View Post
    The Baltics have been doing it since the Estonian cyber attack but good to see the Krauts getting up to speed on their own account.
    SPON has exposed that the Computer Networks Operations department of the Strategic Reconnaissance Command performed offensive cyber operations in 2015, successfully intruding into the network of a cell phone provider to establish tracking profiles on members of an armed group that had kidnapped a German in Afghanistan for a potential kinetic operation by KSK special forces.

    Declassified planned organization for CIR by next year btw (planned for April 1st):

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    Army-level command with two divisions under "Operations Department". Strategic Reconnaissance Command gets "effect and reconnaissance" domains, IT Command gets "command and support" domains. Units at the bottom-most layer are battalion-sized.

    The University of the Bundeswehr at Munich is currently expanding with a new department for cyber security and related research, planned with 11 chairs; their previous cyber defense center did not belong to a particular department. A few dozen million invested for buildings alone, start of a new cyber security officer course is planned for 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    • 09/2016: Support Squadron : newly raised, established from 5th Minesweeping Squadron to be reorganized 06/2014
    Support Squadron in the Navy was established on time (09/27) and got the five Type 404 tenders one of which is modified to supply submarines with hydrogen.

    Squadron function is to support the 1st Flotilla at sea, i.e. the littoral forces consisting of 5 (future probably 10) corvettes, 10 MCM vessels and 6 submarines plus to provide "hosting" vessels for CIR ELINT forces and maintain the Baltic Sea ports of the Navy (Kiel, Rostock, Eckernförde). The flotilla also has the naval infantry under its command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    - 1 oversized multirole wing (60 Eurofighter at two bases)
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    JG71 reduced to a single squadron and attached to one of these three wings.
    JG71 was reestablished to a full wing on July 4th this year, thus making it four identical multirole wings now - all resized to 35 Eurofighters. JG71 started out with its 21 aircraft still this summer, but will grow to full wing size by taking in the Eurofighters originally deployed for overseas training at Holloman AFB, which is being abandoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    Support Squadron in the Navy was established on time (09/27) and got the five Type 404 tenders one of which is modified to supply submarines with hydrogen.
    Correction: The single tender modified to supply submarines - A515 Main - is not part of the Support Squadron but instead belongs to the 1st Submarine Squadron. The other five tenders - Elbe, Mosel, Rhein, Werra, Donau - together form the Support Squadron.

    The squadron currently and in the near future shoulders Operation Sophia for the German Navy, i.e. the sea rescue operation of refugees in the Mediterranean. The three tenders of the squadron based at Kiel will alternate on deployment for this mission having started last November, i.e. with the next rotation after the establishing of the quadron.

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    The German Air Force will expand its planned A400M force from 40 aircraft to 53 aircraft.

    Not because they want to though. But because we aren't finding anyone who wants to buy them from us (... at factory price). The aircraft will be stationed in a separate squadron at Lechfeld in the southwest of Bavaria; the Air Force has been in talks with Switzerland, Austria and the Czech Republic about a possible joint use of the aircraft (or them leasing them from us) but nothing in this regard has come to pass so far.

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