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    Quote Originally Posted by tbm3fan View Post
    Why do I have the urge to straighten out the # 61???
    So straighten it out! It should only take a couple hours or so
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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBattleship View Post
    If we still had 440 VAC feeding to the windlasses, they would work just fine. Thanks to another board member who dug up a spare manual from the Wisconsin. But once you break loose from the shore power, then you're literally lifeless unless you have a pretty good size diesel generator bolted down to the deck.
    Dick, at some point we will need to talk about this. Not while I know you still have you hands full though. Hopefully you will keep good notes of the days operations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbm3fan View Post
    Why do I have the urge to straighten out the # 61???
    Well you do know someone who happens to have the drawings for the bow numbers and its official arrangement. I'm pretty sure though you may get the chance once in drydock and have the proper mix paint for it.
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    FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC. I came on the site today to see what was happening and I had no idea that they were moving her this soon. I figured it would be next year sometime.
    Anyway, loved all the pics and laughed that others asked the same questions I came up with after seeing the pics. Where was the other anchor, why backwards, etc. But in the bridge video looking down, what is the big thing sitting on the rear deck almost at the back?
    I sure wish I wasn't in FL. I'd love to volunteer to help on the restoration. Especially of the turrets and projectile decks. I have become fascinated with all that after all the knowledge I absorbed while doing research to restore my 16" projectile. Many thanks to all on here that offered me advice.
    Now if someone would let me bunk onboard, I'd be glad to spend some time out there working. But as others have mentioned, there is just so much that us 'seniors' can still do and I assume you will have plenty of volunteer offers.
    Again, CONGRATS on getting her and on the first leg of the move.

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    You have 40' containers with the radar equipment in them and on the very stern you have the upper mast works (light tower etc) sitting on the helo pad in order to clear the bridges. They have been off for some time since before being moved to California from Philadelphia.

    When the New Jersey was delivered to Camden she had the majority of her upper works in place minus the radars. Higher bridges or lack of bridges until getting into the Delaware River I assume was the reason for this where as Iowa had to make it under lower bridges in order to get to the reserve or her first intended trip to SanFrancisco before being denied a berth there.
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    this YouTube video was shot by someone following on a boat, and it shows just how close she cleared the set of bridges near Suisun Bay

    USS Iowa Escapes Mothballs - YouTube

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    But in the bridge video looking down, what is the big thing sitting on the rear deck almost at the back?
    I was just about to ask that very question, right up until I took a second, hard look and decided it was the section of mast they'd cut off to move her to Suisan. Nice of 'em to leave it there where the new refurb crew can weld it back into place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BB61Vet View Post
    I was just about to ask that very question, right up until I took a second, hard look and decided it was the section of mast they'd cut off to move her to Suisan. Nice of 'em to leave it there where the new refurb crew can weld it back into place.
    When ships like this are intended to become museums it is not out of place for that to happen (keeping the pieces), For instance the CV JFK had her upper works removed and is on the stern of the ship.
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    Dam Rusty, she came pretty close.
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    Remember this.....

    San Francisco Shuns Retired USS IowaAug 20 03:54 PM US/Eastern
    By BRIAN SKOLOFF
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    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The USS Iowa joined in battles from World War II to Korea to the Persian Gulf. It carried President Franklin Roosevelt home from the Teheran conference of allied leaders, and four decades later, suffered one of the nation's most deadly military accidents.
    Veterans groups and history buffs had hoped that tourists in San Francisco could walk the same teak decks where sailors dodged Japanese machine-gun fire and fired 16-inch guns that helped win battles across the South Pacific.

    Instead, it appears that the retired battleship is headed about 80 miles inland, to Stockton, a gritty agricultural port town on the San Joaquin River and home of California's annual asparagus festival.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., a former San Francisco mayor, helped secure $3 million to tow the Iowa from Rhode Island to the Bay Area in 2001 in hopes of making touristy Fisherman's Wharf its new home.

    But city supervisors voted 8-3 last month to oppose taking in the ship, citing local opposition to the Iraq war and the military's stance on gays, among other things.

    "If I was going to commit any kind of money in recognition of war, then it should be toward peace, given what our war is in Iraq right now," Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi said.

    Feinstein called it a "very petty decision."

    "This isn't the San Francisco that I've known and loved and grew up in and was born in," Feinstein said.

    San Francisco's maritime museum already has one military vessel—the USS Pampanito, an attack submarine that sank six Japanese ships during World War II and has about 110,000 visitors a year.

    Officials in Stockton couldn't be happier. They've offered a dock on the river, a 90,000-square-foot waterfront building and a parking area, and hope to attract at least 125,000 annual visitors.

    After the Korean war, the Iowa was decommissioned and placed in reserve in a Philadelphia shipyard for three decades. In 1988, it was recalled to duty escorting oil supply ships safely in and out danger in the Persian Gulf. In 1989, 47 sailors were killed in an explosion that tore through a gun turret during a training exercise.

    The warship, decommissioned by the Navy in 1990, is currently anchored with a mothballed fleet in Suisun Bay, near the mouth of the San Joaquin-Sacramento River Delta.

    San Francisco's rejection of such a storied battleship is a slap in the nation's face, said Douglass Wilhoit, head of Stockton's Chamber of Commerce.

    "We're lucky our men and women have sacrificed their lives ... to protect our freedom," Wilhoit said. "Wherever you stand on the war in Iraq ... you shouldn't make a decision based on philosophy."

    Rep. Richard W. Pombo, R-Calif., has sponsored legislation authorizing the ship's permanent move to Stockton. Feinstein has countered with a bill to open bidding to any California city.

    The two versions will have to be reconciled by a House-Senate conference committee considering the Pentagon spending bill.

    San Francisco Shuns Retired USS Iowa

    * I'm hoping that when she is opened and starts producing for herself and the local economy that morons like San Frans City "Supervisors" really feel it in the A$$ come election time.
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    Oh I remember all too well. Was soooo thrilled when she was brought here, only to have EIGHT people say "No, we don't want it"

    And it doesn't matter how well the Iowa does down in San Pedro, the fools on SF Board of Stupervisors won't care. It's just the rest of us that actually wanted the ship here that are the losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    Dam Rusty, she came pretty close.
    Yeah. Too darn close. I was up on Clock Tower hill photographing her. I was told that part of the Railroad bridge had to be raised for her to clear. But at the angle I was at, I couldn't see the lifting pylons and was sweating bullets as she got closer and closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBattleship View Post
    Yeah. Too darn close. I was up on Clock Tower hill photographing her. I was told that part of the Railroad bridge had to be raised for her to clear. But at the angle I was at, I couldn't see the lifting pylons and was sweating bullets as she got closer and closer.
    It appeared at one point on the bridge you could have literally "stepped off", right onto the top of the trimast about (011 level) without breaking any extremities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    It appeared at one point on the bridge you could have literally "stepped off", right onto the top of the trimast about (011 level) without breaking any extremities.
    Actually, the Main Battery Director is a bit higher than where they cut the mast off. I wish they cut it off a few inches higher as it's going to be a bitch putting her back together. Still working on the drawing to do so. It seems simple enough but HOW to do it (jacking up the mast sections on the helo deck for grinding the welding bevels) is making me lose sleep. That's why anti-anxiety pills are part of my night medication.

    But then watching Daniala Ruah of "NCIS LOS ANGELES" (the agent with the long dark hair and the dark right eye) is a wake-me-up anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBattleship View Post
    Actually, the Main Battery Director is a bit higher than where they cut the mast off. I wish they cut it off a few inches higher as it's going to be a bitch putting her back together. Still working on the drawing to do so. It seems simple enough but HOW to do it (jacking up the mast sections on the helo deck for grinding the welding bevels) is making me lose sleep. That's why anti-anxiety pills are part of my night medication.

    But then watching Daniala Ruah of "NCIS LOS ANGELES" (the agent with the long dark hair and the dark right eye) is a wake-me-up anyway.

    I ain't THAT old you know.
    Really? Dam. Below the FCR? IMO, sleeve it slightly and leave it to a very experienced welder. Hopefully a Naval Certified one.

    And Dick, no matter how old we are between our ages, with what we know, and the men we know and what they know, we are still considered "Dinosaurs" no matter what. But "Dinosaurs" that walk in a modern age.

    And you know, I'm pretty dam PROUD to be considered one.

    As far as NCIS....Cote de Pablo (Agent Dav'id) is just "smoking" to us younger guys.
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