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    Quote Originally Posted by Versus View Post
    There is an official picture of the causes and the events that happened in the Balkan's during the 90'es that has been established in the World as the truth. That is the official version or the official narrative.
    ok, i suppose you have a more nuanced and detailed way of looking at it. Problem is you disagree at the big picture level.

    No, they are not traitors but members of a secret super structure called the Federal Secret Service that actually facilitated the whole mess.
    What is interesting is instead of breaking away from Serbia these people from the other countries want to join.

    A Croatia or Bosnian Serb trying to join is understandable. But it's something else that these people are from a different country. Like Croat trying to unite Serbs from his country to join the greater Serbian way. I could not think of any motivation to do so other than opportunism. If you want to say loyalty then its loyalty to Milosevic i suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    ok, i suppose you have a more nuanced and detailed way of looking at it. Problem is you disagree at the big picture level.


    What is interesting is instead of breaking away from Serbia these people from the other countries want to join.

    A Croatia or Bosnian Serb trying to join is understandable. But it's something else that these people are from a different country. Like Croat trying to unite Serbs from his country to join the greater Serbian way. I could not think of any motivation to do so other than opportunism. If you want to say loyalty then its loyalty to Milosevic i suppose.
    I firmly believe that only the complete truth can lead to the prevention of further conflict, suffering and loss of life. Events that happened here during the 90es were products of too much compromises, too much lies, maliciousness and hidden agendas on all sides involved in the conflict, both directly and indirectly. It is not an easy thing to digest, it is ugly and brutal, but it is what it is.

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    One of my favorites from the archives

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/4010544...n_tab_contents

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    Here is another explanation i pulled from the comments of the video we are discussing in another thread. Let's see what Versus makes of it : )

    Yugoslavia was deliberately destroyed by the EU and NATO by funding Islamist separatists in Bosnia (just like Kashmir). Eventually the Serbs won and the West's Islamist proxies the Bosnian Muslims lost. This situation caused the West to try an alternative strategy to destroy Yugoslavia/Serbia.

    The US (Clinton) started funding kovoso Albanian Islamic terrorist group (the KLA) which provoked a crackdown from the Serbs after the Kosovo Albanian Muslims slaughtered and beheaded 20 Serb policeman in Kosovo and then Kosovo Albanian Muslims started massacring the Serb minority in Kosovo. Kosovo is to Serbia what Kashmir is to the Hindus of India.
    He does not mention why the EU would want to destroy Yugoslavia in the first place.

    He does not think Milosevic had any negative role to play in the debacle that followed either.

    So foreigners guilty, all Serbs innocent : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Edge View Post
    Here is another explanation i pulled from the comments of the video we are discussing in another thread. Let's see what Versus makes of it : )



    He does not mention why the EU would want to destroy Yugoslavia in the first place.

    He does not think Milosevic had any negative role to play in the debacle that followed either.

    So foreigners guilty, all Serbs innocent : )
    Things are not that simple as this whole matter has multiple dimensions and twists. It is easy to lose temper and fall into a rage when talking about these things, due to huge emotional burden that they carry. This caries a danger of over simplification that than lead to wrong conclusions, simply because the judgment is clouded by rage. Keeping the cool head is the condition for getting this right in this case.
    Serbs did their share of crimes, I don't have any doubts about it and we do carry the portion of the guilt, but that is not the main question, that this case study tries to answer. The real question is, was it necessary or perhaps, did it really needed to happen the way it happened? I am trying to question the reality in which these events accrued.

    Roots and causes for these events are older than the creation of the EU and the birth of the USA so including them as the main players is not correct. Americans did placed the final blow, sort of Coup de grāce, but again they are not the originators of the crisis. Their role was more of the "technical" kind as they were brought into the play late in the game and were used as pure enforcer of the policies and strategies formed and implemented before USA even existed.

    I haven't heard for that particular case, the beheading of the 20 Serbian police officers so I can't say anything about it. I do know that the elements of the, I think that it was 3rd tank battalion, found the corpses of 20 Serbian police officers, with their hands nailed to the walls of the farm wall and their throats cut by the KLA unit that was operating in the zone where Ramus Haradinaj was in control. On the walls, the KLA commander wrote with the policemen blood, the name of his unit.
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    I will continue with the study in few days as the project I am hired for is getting closer to its ending.

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