They achieved absolute control over Tibet and control over the waters leading into India. India's position just became inferior.
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Originally posted by Blademaster View PostThey achieved absolute control over Tibet and control over the waters leading into India. India's position just became inferior.Seek Save Serve Medic
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Originally posted by 667medic View PostI don't understand the cause of the war but certainly don't subscribe to the "back stab theory" propagated in India's history books.
Will agree that Tibet was the primary reason as there is a general consensus on that. But does that necessarily mean a war has to break out, can't say. The rest you have to piece together from various sources. Is it correct can't say and so on.
So when OOE says this was more of a PR win than a military one, will agree because India clammed up totally about it.Last edited by Double Edge; 24 May 11,, 09:38.
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Originally posted by Double Edge View PostAnd you are free to believe that or not because there is no way to rebutt it either way without knowing the official Indian position. Not possible to counter anything the Chinese, Americans or anybody else for that matter says. This is the main problem and for me was the end of the road on this subject.
Will agree that Tibet was the primary reason as there is a general consensus on that. But does that necessarily mean a war has to break out, can't say. The rest you have to piece together from various sources. Is it correct can't say and so on.
So when OOE says this was more of a PR win than a military one, will agree because India clammed up totally about it.Seek Save Serve Medic
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Originally posted by 667medic View PostThis unfortunate situation could have been avoided if pragmatic heads had prevailed instead of posturing. I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to mess with a country which suffered close to 1million casualties fighting against a superpower.
Talk about appeasement.
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Originally posted by 667medic View PostSo what stopped India from turning the tables on China. If Nehru was willing to foresake Assam, might have as well drawn the Chinese to the plains and then trapped them. I am not a professional analyst like OOE sir or Xinhui but my feeling is that Mao Zedong just gave Nehru a long rope to hang himself. Meaning, Mao prepared for war and negotiation at the same time and when Nehru upped the ante, Mao obliged. Something similar probably happed during the Georgia-Russia conflict. Saskhavilli got cocky and invaded not knowing that the Russians were prepared for him....
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Originally posted by Blademaster View PostAnd that gives them license to **** us over?
Talk about appeasement.
1)China faced a superpower headon and suffered a million casualties, do you honestly believe India is capable of such a thing.
2)China suffered 30,000 casualties to teach a lesson to ungrateful Vietnam, does India command the same fear and respect WRT Bangladesh.
3)China arms the Chinese minorities in Burma and warns Burma from going overboard, India helped destroy LTTE and also allowed the death of Tamil civilians as collateral damage.
4)China defends her Island claims doggedly, India gifts an islan as a personal favour to a neighboring countrie's politician.
I am not talking appeasement, I am talking compromise. I am not saying that India gift territory to earn the right to be called a bitchh as another neighboring country but compromise for mutual benefit....Seek Save Serve Medic
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Originally posted by gunnut View PostGreat, our work shop is fighting our customer support center...“the misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all” -- Joan Robinson
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Originally posted by xinhui View Postmy case would be my coder fighting my system integrator. either way, it will make my life hell."Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
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Originally posted by 667medic View PostBlade we are talking about two countried with different ideoligies.
1)China faced a superpower headon and suffered a million casualties, do you honestly believe India is capable of such a thing.
2)China suffered 30,000 casualties to teach a lesson to ungrateful Vietnam, does India command the same fear and respect WRT Bangladesh.
3)China arms the Chinese minorities in Burma and warns Burma from going overboard, India helped destroy LTTE and also allowed the death of Tamil civilians as collateral damage.
4)China defends her Island claims doggedly, India gifts an islan as a personal favour to a neighboring countrie's politician.
I am not talking appeasement, I am talking compromise. I am not saying that India gift territory to earn the right to be called a bitchh as another neighboring country but compromise for mutual benefit....
As for LTTE, it was a foreign group fighting a foreign army in a foreign land. Moreover, it was a group which had assassinated a previous Indian PM. LTTE had outlived their usefulness (with the Cold War over, LTTE became more of a nuisance) to India, hence were allowed to be taken out. As for collateral damage, tell me a single war fought without such.Last edited by Tronic; 24 May 11,, 19:19.Cow is the only animal that not only inhales oxygen, but also exhales it.
-Rekha Arya, Former Minister of Animal Husbandry
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostWell, not quite. There is a difference between trapping an exhausted force on your home turf and attacking prepared Chinese defences in Tibet. The initial InA problems of weather proofed gear and logistics still existed.
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Originally posted by 667medic View PostBlade we are talking about two countried with different ideoligies.
1)China faced a superpower headon and suffered a million casualties, do you honestly believe India is capable of such a thing.
When China fought US in the Korean War, USSR practically armed PRC itself to fight against US although Stalin intended to fight US to the last Chinese soldier. China was not alone when she fought against US in the Korean War and tacitly, she was under the nuclear umbrella of USSR during the Korean War. Why did you think Truman fired MacArthur when MacArthur was advocating the use of nukes against China. MacArthur nor the US did not fear China. They feared the USSR.
2)China suffered 30,000 casualties to teach a lesson to ungrateful Vietnam, does India command the same fear and respect WRT Bangladesh.
3)China arms the Chinese minorities in Burma and warns Burma from going overboard, India helped destroy LTTE and also allowed the death of Tamil civilians as collateral damage.
4)China defends her Island claims doggedly, India gifts an islan as a personal favour to a neighboring countrie's politician.
I am not talking appeasement, I am talking compromise. I am not saying that India gift territory to earn the right to be called a bitchh as another neighboring country but compromise for mutual benefit....Last edited by Blademaster; 25 May 11,, 17:20.
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It would have been a tough fight with no guarantee of an acceptable outcome. The Chinese may have been exhausted but the lack of winter gear and logistics would have played havoc on any Indian advance.
Given the two, I would have given the advantage to the Chinese. Yes, they were exhausted ... but they can recover. The same cannot be said of the Indian forces. The advancing Indian column has to win fast and win hard, failing that, the advantage falls to the Chinese and falls big time to the Chinese.
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