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  • Originally posted by bigross86 View Post
    One thing I forgot to mention before: Syrian tanks have NVG and Infrared sights, IDF has no night fighting capability

    Best and most accurate image I could find, gives you locations of both Syrian and Israeli armor, plus Syrian airborne assault.



    Pre-war forces:

    Prior to the war, the Golan front had been reinforced by Brigade 7. Together with Brigade 188, the forces there amounted to 177 tanks. Additional forces included two infantry battalions and 11 artillery batteries. These troops faced a Syrian force comprised of more than 600 tanks and 80 artillery batteries.

    According to Wikipedia:

    At the onset of the battle, the Israeli brigades of some 3,000 troops, 180 tanks and 60 artillery pieces faced off against three infantry divisions with large armour components comprising 28,000 Syrian troops, 800 tanks and 600 artillery pieces. In addition, the Syrians deployed two armoured divisions from the second day onwards. By the third day Israel has two complete divisions and parts of a third



    Most accurate TOE and OOB I've managed to find:

    ISRAELI ARMY OOB, YOM KIPPUR WAR, OCTOBER 1973

    Northern Command, General Hofi
    36th Mechanised Ugda, General Eitan.

    188th "Barak" Armoured Brigade: 74th Tank Battalion, Lt. Col. Yari Notshi (33 Centurions); 53rd Tank Battalion (32 Centurions); ? Mech Infantry Battalion.
    7th Armoured Brigade: 77th Tank Battalion, Col. Kahalaric (33 Centurions); 82nd Tank Battalion (33 Centurions); 75th Armoured Infantry Battalion; Armoured School Tank Battalion (Centurion).
    1st "Golani" Infantry Brigade.
    31st Airborne Brigade.
    146th Armoured Ugda, General Peled.

    9th Armoured Brigade.
    19th Armoured Brigade (Super Sherman).
    20th Armoured Brigade.
    70th Armoured Brigade.
    240th Armoured Ugda, General Laner.

    679th Reserve Armoured Brigade, Col Uri Orr (Centurion).
    19th Armoured Brigade (ex 146th Ugda).
    20th Armoured Brigade (ex 146th Ugda).
    79th Armoured Brigade.
    17th Armoured Brigade, Col. Sarig.
    14th Infantry Brigade.

    ================================================== =====================================
    5th Infantry Division: Brig. General Ali Aslan
    112th Infantry Brigade
    61st Infantry Brigade
    132nd Mechanised Brigade
    47th Independent Tank Brigade
    50th Artillery Brigade
    7th Infantry Division: Brig. General Omar Abrash
    68th Infantry Brigade
    85th Infantry Brigade
    121st Mechanised Brigade
    78th Independent Tank Brigade
    70th Artillery Brigade
    Moroccan Brigade (30 T-55) (attached)


    9th Infantry Division: Col. Hassan Tourkmani
    52nd Infantry Brigade
    33rd Infantry Brigade
    43rd Mechanised Brigade
    51st Tank Brigade (T-55)
    89th Artillery Brigade

    1st Armoured Division: Col. Tewfig Jehani
    91st Tank Brigade (T-62)
    4th Tank Brigade (T-55)
    2nd Mechanised Brigade (40 T-55)
    64th Artillery Brigade (54 guns including 18 T34/122mm SP Guns)

    3rd Armoured Division: Brig. General Mustapha Sharba
    20th Tank Brigade (T-55)
    65th Tank Brigade (T-55)
    15th Mechanised Brigade
    13th Artillery Brigade
    81st Tank Brigade (T-62) (attached)

    Independent Brigades:
    Assad Republican Guard (T-62 & BMP)

    Army Level Assets:
    Artillery Brigade (36 180mm guns)
    69th Rocket Artillery Brigade (FROG-7)

    General Headquarters Forces: Maj General Yousef Chakour
    70th Tank Brigade
    141st Tank Brigade
    81st Tank Brigade (T-62) (attached to 3rd Armoured Division)
    62nd Mechanised Brigade
    30th Infantry Brigade
    90th Infantry Brigade
    1st Commando Group
    82nd Parachute Regiment
    Additional Artillery Brigades

    Expeditionary forces include:

    Syrian Front
    Primary land elements included:
    3rd Iraqi Armoured Division:
    6th Armoured Brigade (130 Tanks)
    ? Armoured Brigade (130 Tanks)
    8th Mechanised Brigade (50 Tanks)

    Iraqi Infantry Division:
    Unknown organisation

    Jordanian Contingent:
    40th Jordanian Armoured Brigade (Centurion; M113)
    Additional Armoured Brigade
    Moroccan Expeditionary Force:

    1 x Armoured Regiment
    Saudi Arabia:

    1 x Infantry Brigade (Jordanian Defensive Front)
    Disclaimer: I have no experience in warfighting nor have I ever studied the operational aspect of warfare.

    Here's the question I have: did either side know the composition of their opponent on that day?

    If I were the Israeli commander on that day, how much would I know? How would I know I'm being outnumbered 3:1, 6:1, or 12:1?

    If I were the Syrian commander on that day, do I know for a fact that I outnumber my opponent 10:1?

    I figure that would have a lot to do with my decision making process.
    "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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    • Israel started mobilizing reserves and shuttling forces towards the borders the morning of Oct. 6 with the definite knowledge that war will start at some point before sundown. War actually kicks off at 1355, giving the Egyptians and Syrians plenty daylight for their original thrust and tactical surprise.

      As with all wars, intelligences is still scarce about many thing, especially in this case regarding Syrian intelligence, though one can assume that intelligence forces were doing their jobs and that enemy strength was known. The Israeli navy, for instance, was at full war alert almost a week before Oct. 6.

      One of the advantages the Israelis have is that while the IDF has mainly stood down for Yom Kippur, the reserves are very easy to call up because the majority of them are in synagogues and easy to locate, plus the roads are entirely empty
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