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Thread: What is up with the F-35? Part II

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlvfr View Post
    Double ouch: hurts and can't see info...
    makes one wonder why, if its been known for awhile, they are waiting till now to address. or were they just not aware of how serious it was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfng3569 View Post
    makes one wonder why, if its been known for awhile, they are waiting till now to address. or were they just not aware of how serious it was?
    I'm guessing the problem ony really became serious when they starting doing a lot of catapulted flights, rather than ground based testing...

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    Also, the problem could simply be addressed by loading planes heavier, which is probably the operational solution until things are fixed.

    Lt. Gen Bowden specifically noted that this was only a problem at very light loading weights. Of course, this completely escaped the chicken littles in the online press for reasons that are not hard to fathom.
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    http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Sec...3671484149028/

    'IWAKUNI, Japan, Jan. 11 (UPI) -- The U.S. Marines have relocated the first operational F-35B Lightning II squadron from a base in Arizona to Japan.

    The relocation makes the Marine Corps Air Station in Iwakuni, Japan, the first location to receive the branch's F-35 variant as part of the plane's worldwide deployment capability.

    Defense News reports 10 F-35Bs from the Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 121, or VMFA-121, departed for Japan, and an additional six are scheduled to join them at a later date.

    In a statement, the Marine Corps hailed the event as a milestone for the F-35 program. The relocation follows the final testing period for the 5th-generation fighter, in which Marine Corps pilots operated F-35Bs in Developmental Test III and the Lightning Carrier Proof of Concept Demonstration aboard the USS America in October 2016.

    The F-35B was designed by Lockheed Martin and other industry partners to combine short takeoff and vertical landing with stealth capabilities. The Marines plan to use the fifth-generation fighter to replace its legacy fleet of F/A-18 Hornets, A-10 Thunderbolts, and various other aircraft.

    Other operators include Italy and Britain.

    The Air Force is expected to become the next U.S. armed service to make an international deployment with its F-35 variant, and is eyeing a relocation to Europe.'

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    Meanwhile the support software seems to have severe problems, and it's delayed again...

    ALIS v3.0 (the release version) is now set to be delivered in “mid-2018,” a slip of six months from its previous introduction date.

    In many instances, maintainers must attempt to synch several PMAs [portable maintenance aids – the laptops] with an aircraft before finding one that will successfully connect.

    And this paragraph left me with a serious feeling of "wtf": Controversially, it also sends each jet’s history back to the US, regardless of which country actually owns that aircraft – though Lockheed has promised it won’t read the pilots’ names.

    So... any F-35 client better not do any covert ops with them...

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    Yes operators of the F-35 are like monitored employees with computers. While those with 4th Generation aircraft have the freedom of using a typewriter. Technology is a tricky thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfng3569 View Post
    makes one wonder why, if its been known for awhile, they are waiting till now to address. or were they just not aware of how serious it was?

    To find a truly effective fix engineers often need a lot of data to model solutions. Full Operational Testing is where a lot of this data comes from and solutions are determined. It helps refine the trouble set down to a manageable level and realistic and sustainment solutions can be worked out.


    Quote Originally Posted by jlvfr View Post
    Meanwhile the support software seems to have severe problems, and it's delayed again...

    ALIS v3.0 (the release version) is now set to be delivered in “mid-2018,” a slip of six months from its previous introduction date.

    In many instances, maintainers must attempt to synch several PMAs [portable maintenance aids – the laptops] with an aircraft before finding one that will successfully connect.

    And this paragraph left me with a serious feeling of "wtf": Controversially, it also sends each jet’s history back to the US, regardless of which country actually owns that aircraft – though Lockheed has promised it won’t read the pilots’ names.

    So... any F-35 client better not do any covert ops with them...
    Said it once and I'll say it again and again...the most difficult thing in systems deployment in software integration. It is brutally hard. I'll take a 6 - 9 month delay which leads to many years of success.
    "The genius of you Americans is that you make no clear-cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make us wonder at the possibility that there may be something to them we are missing." - Gamal Abdel Nasser

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