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Originally posted by blidgepump View PostMr. L,
I am in D.C. on business near the WNY next week.
Would you like for me to present a letter for you?
With no CAC card there was the traditional paperwork.
Nothing on display from the list of interest.
16-inch barrel on display ( not from the IOWA's )
The USS Barry is still moored.
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Originally posted by blidgepump View PostSecurity much tighter since the shooting at WNY.
With no CAC card there was the traditional paperwork.
Nothing on display from the list of interest.
16-inch barrel on display ( not from the IOWA's )
The USS Barry is still moored.
One way to tell that is a heavy barrel is that extra sleeve about three quarters of the way back from the muzzle. The barrels installed on the ships have no extra bands around them. Only a longitudinal key-way (looks like a 3" X 1/2" flat bar welded on it) that is the alignment bar so the barrel is properly indexed for breech block alignment. Also the outside diameter of the above barrel at the muzzle appears to be larger than the 25" diameter of those used on the Iowas.
Whether they were ever used or not, they are still very impressive. Thanks for the photos.
As for checking on other displays, a few months ago it was reported that the Washington Navy Yard museum will move to slightly smaller quarters and they needed to get rid of some of their displays. The new location was hinted that it would be more accessible to the public as well.Able to leap tall tales in a single groan.
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I have a question:
I've read here and there for years that Wisconsin is the longest of the Iowas, having gained a few inches when the bow of Kentucky was attached to her.
Is that true? Seems like if they cut it off at the same place and welded it back on correctly, it should be the same, right? Unless Kentucky was slightly different.
On the Wisconsin's FB page, the person in charge of the page says it's a myth. Sounds reasonable, just wondered where it came from and was there anything to it?
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Question about the 16-inch barrel pictured in post #1472.
Looking square at the muzzle the rifling is clearly visible as well as what appears to be an inner piece inside the overall barrel.
Is that what is called the barrel sleeve? Do the barrels have to be removed from the gun turret to replace the sleeve--and thus the rifling?
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Originally posted by Pacfanweb View PostI have a question:
I've read here and there for years that Wisconsin is the longest of the Iowas, having gained a few inches when the bow of Kentucky was attached to her.
Is that true? Seems like if they cut it off at the same place and welded it back on correctly, it should be the same, right? Unless Kentucky was slightly different.
On the Wisconsin's FB page, the person in charge of the page says it's a myth. Sounds reasonable, just wondered where it came from and was there anything to it?Able to leap tall tales in a single groan.
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Originally posted by Burnet View PostQuestion about the 16-inch barrel pictured in post #1472.
Looking square at the muzzle the rifling is clearly visible as well as what appears to be an inner piece inside the overall barrel.
Is that what is called the barrel sleeve? Do the barrels have to be removed from the gun turret to replace the sleeve--and thus the rifling?
The outer sections of the barrel are heated up and at the same time the liner is cooled with Dry Ice and Acetone. When the liner shrinks enough and the outer sleeves expand, it can then be easily slipped off.
Ummm, but that still takes a lot of heavy machinery and a bit of acreage.
A new sleeve is then inserted the same way with the outer sections heated up and the sleeve kept cold. When the sleeve is slipped in, the the entire barrel assembly is quickly dunked into a quenching pit of cooling oil. The end of the sleeve, prortuding past the muzzle is then trimmed off.
The barrels aboard a Battleship do experience stretching of the inner sleeve where it starts to extend past the muzzle. But a shipyard availability is not necessarily needed to trim the sleeve as each ship has the machine to mount on the end of the barrel and the Machinist Mates get to do some precise "turret lathe" work but with a vertical work base rather than flat on the ground.Able to leap tall tales in a single groan.
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I'm going on a cruise soon and looking for some good IOWA-RELATED reading material to kick back with? Besides Rusty's book and Stillwell's books on NJ and Missouri, any other recommended reading about the Iowas, or for that matter battleships in general? Interested more in post WWII stuff...
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Originally posted by ArmorPiercing88 View PostI'm going on a cruise soon and looking for some good IOWA-RELATED reading material to kick back with? Besides Rusty's book and Stillwell's books on NJ and Missouri, any other recommended reading about the Iowas, or for that matter battleships in general? Interested more in post WWII stuff...
http://www.amazon.com/The-Iowa-Class.../dp/0713717327"There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge
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In 2003 I spent the better part of a day at the Washington Navy Yard. What an amazing place! The museum was great along with all of the artifacts outside like the guns and propellers and such. Got to see the library and Naval Historical Center. So much history there. It was a day I shall never forget.
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Plans/Dimensions for Iowa Class 16" Turret Fittings
Question: Does anyone know of a source for plans of Iowa Class 16" Turret fittings:
1. Rangefinder hoods
2. Pointer/Trainer Hoods
3. Periscopes.
(any other details).
The turret plans I have acquired only define the interfaces and that these components are being supplied from other sources. Oddly, the hoods in the builder's plans do not look like the ones actually installed.
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Originally posted by bigjimslade View PostQuestion: Does anyone know of a source for plans of Iowa Class 16" Turret fittings:
1. Rangefinder hoods
2. Pointer/Trainer Hoods
3. Periscopes.
(any other details).
The turret plans I have acquired only define the interfaces and that these components are being supplied from other sources. Oddly, the hoods in the builder's plans do not look like the ones actually installed.
But you can contact The Scale Shipyard who casts the turrets, hoods & barrels out of resin. If your model is 1:96, he has them in stock or at least the molds to cast them.Able to leap tall tales in a single groan.
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Originally posted by blidgepump View PostThings not as they appear today ....
Not to stray from the previous question asked ... were these rungs on the stern found on all IOWA -class BB's?
In the 80's however, they were no longer needed as the catapults and float planes were of a by-gone era. The only thing sticking out of the transom was a double square bolster for fairlieading out the Nixie torpedo decoys.Able to leap tall tales in a single groan.
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