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    Burkha Vs Bikini

    This should stir up some interesting comments. Enjoy
    http://www.allaahuakbar.net/womens/burka_vs_bikini.htm

    Burkha Vs Bikini
    The Debauchery Of American Womanhood

    By Henry Makow, Ph.D.

    On my wall, I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burkha. Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing nothing but a bikini.

    One woman is totally hidden from the public; the other is totally exposed. These two extremes say a great deal about the clash of so-called "civilizations."

    The role of woman is at the heart of any culture. Apart from stealing Arab oil, the impending war in the Middle East is about stripping Arabs of their religion and culture, exchanging the burkha for a bikini.

    I am not an expert on the condition of Muslim women and I love feminine beauty too much to advocate the burkha here. But I am defending some of the values that the burkha represents for me.

    For me, the burkha represents a woman's consecration to her husband and family. Only they see her.

    It affirms the privacy, exclusivity and importance of the domestic sphere.

    The Muslim woman's focus is her home, the "nest" where her children are born and reared. She is the "home" maker, the taproot that sustains the spiritual life of the family, nurturing and training her children, providing refuge and support to her husband.

    In contrast, the bikinied American beauty queen struts practically naked in front of millions on TV. A feminist, she belongs to herself.

    In practice, paradoxically, she is public property. She belongs to no one and everyone. She shops her body to the highest bidder. She is auctioning herself all of the time.

    In America, the cultural measure of a woman's value is her sex appeal. (As this asset depreciates quickly, she is neurotically obsessed with appearance and plagued by weight problems.)

    As an adolescent, her role model is Britney Spears, a singer whose act approximates a strip tease. From Britney, she learns that she will be loved only if she gives sex. Thus, she learns to "hook up" rather than to demand patient courtship and true love. As a result, dozens of males know her before her husband does. She loses her innocence, which is a part of her charm. She becomes hardened and calculating. Unable to love, she is unfit to receive her husband's seed.

    The feminine personality is founded on the emotional relationship between mother and baby. It is based on nurturing and self-sacrifice.

    Masculine nature is founded on the relationship between hunter and prey. It is based on aggression and reason.

    Feminism teaches woman that feminine nature has resulted in "oppression" and that she should convert to male behavior instead.

    The result: a confused and aggressive woman with a large chip on her shoulder, unfit to become a wife or mother.

    This, of course, is the goal of the social engineers at the NWO: undermine sexual identity and destroy the family, create social and personal dysfunction, and reduce population.

    See this World Population Control Promotes Homosexuality

    See this Clinton and his administration Promotes Homosexuality

    In the "brave new world," women are not supposed to be nest makers, or progenitors of the race. They are meant to be neutered autonomous creatures that indulge in sex for physical pleasure, not for love or procreation.

    At his press conference on Sunday, Donald Rumsfeld said that Iranian women and youth were restive under the rule of the Mullahs. He implied that the US would soon liberate them. To Britney Spears?

    To low-rise "see-my-thong" pants? To the mutual masturbation that passes for sexuality in America?

    Parenthood is the pinnacle of human development. It is the stage when we finally graduate from self-indulgence and become God's surrogates: creating and nurturing new life. The New World Order does not want us to reach this level of maturity. Pornography is the replacement for marriage. We are to remain stunted: single, sex-starved and self-obsessed.

    We are not meant to have a permanent "private" life. We are to remain lonely and isolated, dependent on consumer products for our identity, in a state of perpetual courtship.

    This is especially destructive for woman. Her sexual attraction is a function of her fertility. As fertility declines, so does her sex appeal. If a woman devotes her prime years to becoming "independent," she is not likely to find a permanent mate. Her long-term personal fulfillment and happiness lies in making marriage and family her first priority.

    Feminism is another cruel New World Order hoax that has debauched American women and despoiled Western civilization. It has ruined millions of lives and represents a lethal threat to Islaam.

    I am not advocating the burkha but rather some of the values that it represents, specifically a woman's consecration to her future husband and family, and the modesty and dignity this entails. The burkha and the bikini represent two extremes. The answer lies somewhere in the middle.

    Henry Makow, Ph.D. is the inventor of the board game Scruples and the author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles on feminism and the New World Order are found at www.savethemales.ca

    He welcomes your comments at henrym@mts.net

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    You're not married, are you, Captain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
    You're not married, are you, Captain?
    Sir,
    Married, one kid, and another bun in the oven. You're not going to try and drag up the donkey story again, are you?

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    meh. As usual, the answer is somewhere between the two extremes. I have no problem with other blokes seeing my wifes hair, but it's not like she walks around like some of the ***** you see these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shek
    Sir,
    Married, one kid, and another bun in the oven. You're not going to try and drag up the donkey story again, are you?
    My compliments and best wished congratulations. No donkey story, Captain, just that when was the last time you try telling your wife what to wear? Actually, when was the last time you won an arguement?

    Now, that you raised the donkey, did you tell her that story?

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    He has some interesting things to say, but I'm with you Ziska, he's on two extremes. One sentence struck me as very ignorant, though.

    "Thus, she learns to "hook up" rather than to demand patient courtship and true love. "

    His sentence should read "Thus, she learns to "hook up" rather than to demand patient courtship and true love that the woman in a burkha rarely finds in her arranged marriage. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by shek
    He has some interesting things to say, but I'm with you Ziska, he's on two extremes. One sentence struck me as very ignorant, though.

    "Thus, she learns to "hook up" rather than to demand patient courtship and true love. "

    His sentence should read "Thus, she learns to "hook up" rather than to demand patient courtship and true love that the woman in a burkha rarely finds in her arranged marriage. "

    Good one Sir

    This guy apparently loves to make American women out to be whores or something.
    I guess he prefers the chattel status of the Muslim woman. What a Neanderthal
    He also seems to be obessed with Britney Spears. I wonder how old this guy is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
    My compliments and best wished congratulations. No donkey story, Captain, just that when was the last time you try telling your wife what to wear? Actually, when was the last time you won an arguement?

    Now, that you raised the donkey, did you tell her that story?
    The first question is easy, I have no fashion sense, so it's always her telling me what not to wear. Of course, I always have matching clothes when I go to work On the second question, quite often, but it's because I refuse to argue. She'll get mad as a hornet's nest and then once she cools down, she usually realize that it's not worth arguing about and we'll laugh about it. You can't lose an argument you didn't have.

    As far as the last one, I sure did, and once she got over the shocking thought of it, she had quite a laugh, and that story made the rounds quite fast in the wives' circle.

    Now, once my daughter grows up, she won't be leaving the house looking like Britney Spears or Madonna. It's kind of funny, I have a friend that's in his 40s and his first daughter is 13, and he runs a tight ship on what she wears. He also does the same when her friends come over (I guess they roll over the jeans at the waist so they ride really low on the hips - he makes them roll it back up). Anyways, his daughter complained that none of her friends want to come over anymore because he makes them dress more appropriately.

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    Good article! I personally would prefer a woman in a bikini A LOT MORE than a woman in a burkha. I don't understand why he generalizes all of American women as sluts, they are not.

    Feminism teaches woman that feminine nature has resulted in "oppression" and that she should convert to male behavior instead.
    What the hell is he talking about? I am not an expert in feminism, but that looks like her got it wrong.

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    It's a pretty common opinion of feminism. A man who sleeps around is viewed as sucessful and attractive, therefore a liberated woman should be able to sleep around as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziska
    It's a pretty common opinion of feminism. A man who sleeps around is viewed as sucessful and attractive, therefore a liberated woman should be able to sleep around as well.
    *shrug* Nothing wrong with that in the abstract, but society will probably always view it differently. At least as long as my lifetime anyway.
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    Extremes like the Burkha and the Bikini rarely compare favorably, and equally rarely tell the whole story (but they do make for great articles). I won't be sad when Western fashion covers up a little more of the female form in public, and I won't be sad if and when Muslim cultures let their hair down a little.

    I mean, holy crap, I like T&A just as much as the next guy, but I DO like having to guess a little as to what's "under there". That's part of the fun of being a guy, after all.

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    Both, burqa and the bikini are the extreme end of the spectrum.

    When I see the beaches of the West and see the bikini clad, it does not make me feel that the situation is out of place.

    When I see a Moroccon market with burqa clad women it does not make me feel as if something is wrong.

    However, when I see a burqa clad woman alongside a bikini clad woman, I ger confused.

    I am then reminded of the sagacious saying - beauty is but skin deep!

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    However, when I see fat women in bikinis, it becomes a strain on the eye and I go to have my eye check.

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    Good thing the author didn't cruise some European beaches. I'd hate to think what a breasts vs. burkha article would have looked like.

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