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    1. F-18 E/F is not just an enlarged F-18 A-D
    2. F-18 E/F is a better fighter than people give it credit for
    3. F-4 was the ugliest fighter in USN service...EVER!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    3. F-4 was the ugliest fighter in USN service...EVER!!!
    I submit the F2A Buffalo as the ugliest, that or the F3F biplane

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    What are you guys talking about????

    The Phantom is beautiful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    I submit the F2A Buffalo as the ugliest, that or the F3F biplane
    Nah...they have this old timer's charm that I like.

    F-4, on the other hand, looked like the parts were stuck on in a late night garage project. The droopy tail, upslanted wing tips, engine intake that looked likethey were bolted on as an after thought, fat nose, engines that weren't placed all the way back like the designer ran out of something during the designing phase...etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFever View Post
    What are you guys talking about????

    The Phantom is beautiful!
    How many beers have you had? :hammer:
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    7 so far. But thats besides the Point.

    Also, why is the Raptor so beautiful but the JSF so butt ugly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zraver View Post
    I submit the F2A Buffalo as the ugliest, that or the F3F biplane
    I'm rather fond of the Buffalo, even built the model!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFever View Post
    Also, why is the Raptor so beautiful but the JSF so butt ugly?
    You mean F-32 Lewinsky?
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    I like the looks of the 'flying beer bottle' (Lentävä kaljapullo) F2A Buffalo much better than the later 'knock-kneed bumblebee' F4F Wildcat that replaced it.

    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    You mean F-32 Lewinsky?
    The X-32 looks like it's making a face like
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnut View Post
    You mean F-32 Lewinsky?
    Yeah.....it blows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFever View Post
    Yeah.....it blows.
    Really? I thought it sucked...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    Oh come on, the superbug got nothing on the elelphant nose F4.
    I love the F-4. The shining example that if you put big enough engines in something, it WILL fly. And do so pretty fast. But it only looks good in camo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chogy View Post
    How the F-22 and the AIM-120 changes the "hi-fast flyer" challenge, I am not sure, but I would guess the vastly superior kinematic performance of the AIM-120 vs the AIM-7 makes the job much easier.
    Same concepts, but the engagement envelope is more forgiving as you'd expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlvfr View Post
    To add to this: don't forget the israelis shotdown multiple sirian recon Mig-25, a mission profile that required a delicate interception.
    Sorry for the offtopic, but do you have any additional information about those interceptions? I've never heard about them before.
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    Something to consider when using the difficulties in achieving kills against the Syrian Mig-25's is that those were unarmed recon versions. A Mig-25 or Mig-31 attempting to kill an AWACs would have/would be using big Russian missiles like the AA-6, AA-9 or AA-13. That reduces the speed and altitude of the aircraft a lot, so the interceptions aren't going to be as hard as the Syrian ones were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUS View Post
    Sorry for the offtopic, but do you have any additional information about those interceptions? I've never heard about them before.
    Mostly in books, but I found this on the net:
    F-15 Eagle in Service with Israel
    (mentions "zoom and climb" tactic")
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