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    Quote Originally Posted by blidgepump View Post
    When a Fletcher-DD was returned to service after a time in Fleet reserve it was often undated. Common update may include.... Two Hedgehog anti-submarine (ASW) launchers and two torpedo carriages for the Mark 32 torpedo were added, with one 21 inch (533 mm) quintuple torpedo tube mount removed. Also, four 40 mm Bofors twin mounts were often replaced by two quadruple mounts. The forward pole mast is usually the giveaway at a distance of an update when it was replaced by a tripod mast to accommodate improved radar and electronics systems.
    Correct me if I am wrong but The fletchers although the prime Destroyer of WW2 were not suited for upgrades to todays warfare. Hhe hulls could not take the additional weight of the upgrades more did they have the needed real-estate to accept major modern upgrades. They were extremely effective for the mission they were intended for and served the USA well, they were and are beautiful well proportioned ships, none of those ships owed us anything..we owed them....therefore I submit not many Fletchers were returned to service. Although a few saw service in the Korean War and performed admirably. Many of them went to FMS Sales (Foreign Military Sales), a few went to reserves such as the Pineapple fleet out of Pearl
    And few reserve contingents on the East and West Coast. to be truthful I do not believe there is a class of ship currently in the navy inventory now or in the past that has the following the fletchers have. Perhaps the for stackers run a close second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boilermaker9 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong but The fletchers although the prime Destroyer of WW2 were not suited for upgrades to todays warfare. Hhe hulls could not take the additional weight of the upgrades more did they have the needed real-estate to accept major modern upgrades. They were extremely effective for the mission they were intended for and served the USA well, they were and are beautiful well proportioned ships, none of those ships owed us anything..we owed them....therefore I submit not many Fletchers were returned to service. Although a few saw service in the Korean War and performed admirably. Many of them went to FMS Sales (Foreign Military Sales), a few went to reserves such as the Pineapple fleet out of Pearl
    And few reserve contingents on the East and West Coast. to be truthful I do not believe there is a class of ship currently in the navy inventory now or in the past that has the following the fletchers have. Perhaps the for stackers run a close second.
    While the Fletchers did not get the FRAM-style upgrades that the Gearing and Sumners did, a quick search shows that a significant number of them sailed for the USN well in the 60s and a few into 1970. So no, it was not cost effective to upgrade them as too many compromises would have had to be made, but they did soldier on for a good long while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCT View Post
    While the Fletchers did not get the FRAM-style upgrades that the Gearing and Sumners did, a quick search shows that a significant number of them sailed for the USN well in the 60s and a few into 1970. So no, it was not cost effective to upgrade them as too many compromises would have had to be made, but they did soldier on for a good long while.
    Yes they did JTC but most were relegated to reserve duty as the Gearings and Summers and finely the 1200 pounders took over the prime missions and shoved the remaining fletchers to the back waters. They were a fine ship tried and proven served U S well for a long time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boilermaker9 View Post
    Yes they did JTC but most were relegated to reserve duty as the Gearings and Summers and finely the 1200 pounders took over the prime missions and shoved the remaining fletchers to the back waters. They were a fine ship tried and proven served U S well for a long time!
    I'll gladly take the correction! I only did a superficial search and did not see anything about Fletcher FRAM conversions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCT View Post
    I'll gladly take the correction! I only did a superficial search and did not see anything about Fletcher FRAM conversions.
    FRAM 1 Fletchers upgraded them to DEs. Most of these were sold to foreign countries.

    3 Fletchers received FRAM 2 upgrades Radford, Jenkins and Nicholas
    Its called Tourist Season. So why can't we shoot them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCT View Post
    I'll gladly take the correction! I only did a superficial search and did not see anything about Fletcher FRAM conversions.
    No correction intended just an expansion of your theme which is absolutely true JTC, just polite conversation. One thing I have learned on this board is thhat all who participate have something”to bring to the table”. This by itself makes it interesting and fun. The fletchers in my opinion are the beginning of the modern destroyer. Even though I am not a fan of gas turbines!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Grape View Post
    FRAM 1 Fletchers upgraded them to DEs. Most of these were sold to foreign countries.

    3 Fletchers received FRAM 2 upgrades Radford, Jenkins and Nicholas
    I forgot about the DDE conversions. But I understand that intailed the removal of guns and install of hedg hogs and other anti sub weapons. Weren’t the fram upgrades to expensive and they decided to Fram the 692-710 instead?

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