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Originally posted by Franco LolanOk. I was enamored with the idea of hundreds of CIA agents destroying vital infrastructure,personnel, and equipment. LOL, even though I knew that I was unrealistic. Would SOF land on Chinese mainland to destroy objectives such as SAM and Radar sites?
You stated relatively easy for air to breach SAM defences. How so? Aren't newer batteries such as S-450s and radars very capable?
I have AP Comparative Politics class tommorow at 6:30 AM, and I have to give a presentation on Political Change in regards to Constitution in the Russian Federation. I will read response during Homeroom. Thank you.
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Originally posted by Officer of EngineersJust off the top of my head.
The new subs - they're going on sea trials at the moment and nowhere near operational. If the MINGs and the HANs are any indication, it will be at least 5-6 years before they shake all the cowebs out (ie, learn to use the thing SAFELY) and it will be another 5-6 years before they learn how to use the things EFFECTIVELY. To suggest that they could bypass this step is ludicrous in the extreme.
As for the JL-2, the Chinese have stopped working on them.
The rest of the article continues along these lines. It has not caught up with the fact that the Chinese have suspended deliveries of SU-27s from Russia. Maybe, they're trying to get better models but the fact remains that their numbers are now frozen for at least 3 years.
Garbage. Just plain garbage.
Too many misleadings in your comments.
China has been buillding and using submarines for several decades. The transition to a new sub takes 12 years? If they were China's first generation Subs. it could take such long time.
As long as 094 was built, then JL-2 will not stop. That's the simple reason.
China stopped buying Su-27 before the end of the transaction simply because China is building J11 which is a upgrade on SU-27 and domestic J10 goes to productions too. SU-30 are also available to China. Why China still need Russian made SU-27?
Chinese official media just released news recently and says J11, J10 and JH7A are in the massive production stage.
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Originally posted by Franco LolanWhat is your opinion on in the case of war with the PRC over ROC per se, opening up a Western front? Or SF/paramilitary operations? What influence could they have? I used to think great but because the war would primarily be naval and air, maybe not much. Also, Hanization is wiping out much of base of support for insurgency and the whole deflection politics deal would work out for the Party. What role would US paramilitaries (CIA type) and SOF forces play in the conflict.
How would you judge US intel HUMINT assets in PRC? (inversely, isn't the PRC owning up the US through spying?)
Also, what did you think on PRC SAM batteries? Can US/ROC/Japanese AF/etc break through?
This could be a dream. Xinjiang is covered by LanZhou Military Region and about 1 million semi-PLAs in Xinjiang. Tibet is covered by the Chengdu Military Region. Both places are almost closed to outside by mountains. Maybe CIAs can be dropped there if they are not expected to go back. I also doubt any one like to provide base for US.
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Originally posted by oneman28Too many misleadings in your comments.
Originally posted by oneman28China has been buillding and using submarines for several decades. The transition to a new sub takes 12 years? If they were China's first generation Subs. it could take such long time.
Originally posted by oneman28As long as 094 was built, then JL-2 will not stop. That's the simple reason.
Originally posted by oneman28China stopped buying Su-27 before the end of the transaction simply because China is building J11 which is a upgrade on SU-27 and domestic J10 goes to productions too. SU-30 are also available to China. Why China still need Russian made SU-27?
Originally posted by oneman28Chinese official media just released news recently and says J11, J10 and JH7A are in the massive production stage.
Don't try to snow me! I run the biggest English based PLA watcher forum in the world.
http://forum.china-defense.comLast edited by Officer of Engineers; 26 Apr 05,, 10:46.
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Originally posted by oneman28China has been buillding and using submarines for several decades. The transition to a new sub takes 12 years? If they were China's first generation Subs. it could take such long time.
Chinese official media just released news recently and says J11, J10 and JH7A are in the massive production stage.A grain of wheat eclipsed the sun of Adam !!
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Originally posted by Officer of EngineersBULL CRAP! I've studied the PLA for over 20 years and served in the military for just that long.
Don't try to snow me! I run the biggest English based PLA watcher forum in the world.
http://forum.china-defense.com
Crap!!. Your knowledge is so limited If you only get source from English media. Most of the above news of development come out in recent 10 years. and all most all of them came from Chinese sources.
The MING sub that sunk was doing some testing.
Western medias almost knew nothing about DF31 until it was showed in 1999. Most of them just guess it's development stage. But suddenly so many showed in Tiananmen. Even you know 094 was built, how JL2 can be cancelled? 094 is Chinese most important weaponary platform for deterrance. How Chinese can give up this program?
Same as Yuan sub, western medias knew it only after so many photoes came out. None of them even know the program. Do you still have faith in the English Media? In today's world, you can only be an frog in a well if you only access english media.
The chinese official news about J10, J11 and JF7A just released within one month. Chinese medias seldom release "new" news about weaponary programs if they target domestic market.
There is at least one regiment of J10. You know it? That's about 24 fighters! Still in trial?Last edited by oneman28; 26 Apr 05,, 17:53.
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And who told you that the Colonel only monitors English or so called western media?? If you want to really understand where he comes from, visit his forum, you'll be educated with real statistics and not propoganda for a change.A grain of wheat eclipsed the sun of Adam !!
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Originally posted by Officer of EngineersI can do all the replies in the world but your knowledge is so freaking limited that it's worthless. Care to check GlobalSecurity.Org to check just about your dated materials alone?
Thanks for that web, I checked,
Come here:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/china/icbm.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...f-facility.htm
Isn't that a joke?Last edited by oneman28; 26 Apr 05,, 23:23.
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A series of report from Chinese official media: (in Chinese)
About j10:
http://club.backchina.com/main/showthread.php?t=163077
About JH7A
http://club.backchina.com/main/showthread.php?t=166436
About J11B
http://club.backchina.com/main/showthread.php?t=163078
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