I have a question about the US battleships: how many people aboard had a cabin to themselves? I know the Captain did, and the Admirals or dignitaries had special private accomodations. Did the Exec have a sleeping cabin to himself? How many senior officers had their own room?
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Originally posted by USSWisconsin View PostI have a question about the US battleships: how many people aboard had a cabin to themselves? I know the Captain did, and the Admirals or dignitaries had special private accomodations. Did the Exec have a sleeping cabin to himself? How many senior officers had their own room?Last edited by Dreadnought; 02 Apr 10,, 13:59.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Dread:
One minor correction. The Captain's "In Port" cabin and Admiral's quarters were on 01, level, not 02 - at least for now on a couple of the ships after modernization.
Prior to that, port side opposite the Captain's In Port cabin (still 01 level and not 02) were staterooms for other officers.
On 02 level were the Chief of Staff's cabin that we turned into CEC for modernization.
Also, before modernization, the Captain had TWO "Sea Cabins" with a small one up on 08 level aft of the upper conning station. That was converted into an electronics space and had the port holes cut out and plated in. One of those port holes from the New Jersey mysteriously appeared on my fireplace hearth.Able to leap tall tales in a single groan.
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Originally posted by RustyBattleship View PostDread:
One minor correction. The Captain's "In Port" cabin and Admiral's quarters were on 01, level, not 02 - at least for now on a couple of the ships after modernization.
Prior to that, port side opposite the Captain's In Port cabin (still 01 level and not 02) were staterooms for other officers.
On 02 level were the Chief of Staff's cabin that we turned into CEC for modernization.
Also, before modernization, the Captain had TWO "Sea Cabins" with a small one up on 08 level aft of the upper conning station. That was converted into an electronics space and had the port holes cut out and plated in. One of those port holes from the New Jersey mysteriously appeared on my fireplace hearth.
:)) Thanks Rusty for a moment there. I counted the main deck as 01. I was not aware that the space on the captains bridge originally was another at sea cabin. It didnt appear anything like that my last time up there. Learn something new every day I suppose.:)
If it mysteriously appeared in your hearth then obvioulsy it must have been pulled from the "magic hat".:))Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Originally posted by Dreadnought View PostThe Captain had two state rooms or cabins, the "In port" cabin (Starboard side 02 level) for receiving guests and having meals and the "At Sea" cabin behind the Chartroom annex on the Navigation Bridge when the ship is at sea.The Admirals quarters (if so equipped) 02 level Port side, The VIP state room 02 level Port side. The XO's state room (Executive Officer) which on the Iowas was just fore of the Officers Ward Main deck Starboard side. On the opposite side of the ward you had a single Officers birth (high ranking thus the single birth). The rest of the Officers births were of dual occupancy for the main part in the upper superstructure of the ship. And the Chiefs aft on the stern below.sigpic"If your plan is for one year, plant rice. If your plan is for ten years, plant trees.
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Originally posted by USSWisconsin View PostThank you, and thanks for the pictures. So I understand there were two single occupancy staterooms for officers below the Captain in rank? One for the Exec, and one more?
The CPO's and others also had their own dining area/meeting area as well seperate from the regular crews mess and outside of the Officers ward.
When ladies were aboard such as USO or other, they would birth in the VIP cabin and the hospital ward berths. These would have a posted sentry outside the door.Last edited by Dreadnought; 02 Apr 10,, 14:16.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Originally posted by Dreadnought View PostHalseys room behind the Combat Engagemnt Center. He used this for discussing upcoming events with his officers and staff away from normal operations of the ship.
On the New Jersey, the starboard half of his quarters (02 level above the ship's Captain's Cabin) was his meeting and planning space. On the port side were his living quarters, bedroom and lavatory.
The small cabin aft of his quarters on the starboard side was always called a guest cabin. For visiting admirals or high ranking politicians. That's the only part we kept original.
I remember the New Jersey in '68 (worked on her then too) and the quarters were set up as museum status with his stars on the door.
We also did the same conversion on the other 3 ships as well. Before the "rip out" crews came in, I remember sitting on that sofa while discussing our inspections.
On the Missouri, we used those quarters for laying out our drawings and using the space for meetings. Then the first Bremerton inspection was cut short and we left all the drawings there neatly stacked and labeled. When we went back several months later, all of our drawings were piled up into a closet. This was done by a movie company that used that stateroom for a scene from "Winds of War". That's the scene where Robert Mitchum enters to discuss his intelligence activities with an Admiral. I immediately recognized that space (and the closet door) on the TV screen.
I yelled , "Hey! That's OUR office. Where are all our drawings?".Able to leap tall tales in a single groan.
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You know the more Rusty post the more envious I become! What I would give to work on a BB that had been in reserves all those years and then opening them up, almost like a time capsule.
You can tell b his posts that this was more a labor of love than just another job to be done.
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Originally posted by YtlasWorking on a BB or any ship for that matter, is a bit more than wandering around looking at things. I don't remember any Production personnel saying "Wow, it's really good working on these BB's" at the time they were on them. For most trades, it was 6-7 days a week for months on end, sometimes 10-12 hours days. The Jersey and Misery get old quickly when you spend nearly every day of your life for two straight years working on them.
On a regular day, you had to be on the ship at 7:30. When break time came you got your coffee, drank it quickly and got back on board. No Production people could leave the ship until 11:30 for lunch and had to be back on board when lunch ended at 12:10. The Production personnel got to leave the ship 5 minutes before quitting time to clean up.
The closest I come to working on a car now is watching it on TV.
Like I have said to Rusty I feel the way I do because BBs are interesting to me, and I enjoy exploring things that I do not normally do. When I ask questions to Rusty or get replies from people in the know like yourself on this sight, I out front acknowledge I am a "greenhorn" asking questions that are normally hard to get answers for.
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