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  • Lets talk about a much much closer engagment, not maximum range, and a risk assessment of say when they are near the East China sea. In this scenero, coastline batteries (10 km away), and just first strike sneak attack.
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    • Got some math errors here. 8300 mph is not 233 miles per second, it is 2.3 miles per second, given 3600 seconds per hour.

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      • Yeah @ 800,000+ feet, with a trajectory of @ 10K feet a second equals about 80 seconds.
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        • Originally posted by Chogy View Post
          Got some math errors here. 8300 mph is not 233 miles per second, it is 2.3 miles per second, given 3600 seconds per hour.
          Clearing the atmosphere at 233 miles per second would be more than enough to escape the solar system ;)
          (although not enough to escape the Milky Way)

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          • That would be pretty damn awesome. Maybe ray-guns, mounted on a B-52 platform, can name him Spooky-2. NFS look no further too the Air Force for firesupport.
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            • Sorry to pop the thread up.

              The latest test at Gobi Desert against a stationary "Carrier".

              Did China Test its “Carrier-Killer?”

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                China’s Anti-Carrier Missile Now Opposite Taiwan, Flynn Says
                By Tony Capaccio - Apr 18, 2013 4:37 PM ET

                The Chinese military has deployed its new anti-ship ballistic missile along its southern coast facing Taiwan, the Pentagon’s top military intelligence officer said today.

                The missile, designated the DF-21D, is one of a “growing number of conventionally armed” new weapons China is deploying to the region, adding to more than 1,200 short-range missiles opposite the island democracy, U.S. Army Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, the Defense Intelligence Agency director, said in a statement to the Senate


                Flynn’s reference to the DF-21D follows one made by U.S. Navy Admiral Samuel Locklear, head of the U.S. Pacific Command, in congressional testimony on April 9. He highlighted the “initial deployment of a new anti-ship missile that we believe is designed to target U.S. aircraft carriers.”

                Flynn’s brief reference to the DF-21D today is significant because it advances the DIA’s assessment last year, when U.S. Army Lieutenant General Ronald Burgess, then the agency’s director, said China’s military is “probably preparing to deploy” the weapon.

                The disclosure may spark increased scrutiny in Congress this year about the vulnerability of the Navy’s aircraft carriers, including the new Gerald R. Ford class being built by Newport News, Virginia-based Huntington Ingalls Industries Inc.. (HII)

                The Navy estimates that the first new carrier will cost at least $12.3 billion, and the service’s budget request for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1 includes $1.68 billion for new aircraft carriers, more than double this year’s $781.7 million request. Of that, $945 million would pay for continued design and construction of the second Ford-class carrier, the USS John F. Kennedy.
                ‘Immediate Need’

                Michael Gilmore, the Pentagon’s director of operational testing, warned in his January 2012 annual report that the Navy lacked a target needed to check its defenses against the DF-21D. The Navy had an “immediate need” for a test missile able to replicate the DF-21D’s trajectory, Gilmore said.

                Last July, Gilmore told Navy Secretary Ray Mabus in a memo that testing to evaluate the new carriers’ “ability to withstand shock and survive in combat” would be postponed until after the Kennedy is built, and may not be completed for seven years.

                The DF-21D is intended to give China “the capability to attack large ships, particularly aircraft carriers, in the western Pacific,” the Pentagon’s 2012 China report said. The report cites estimates that the missile’s range exceeds 930 miles (1,500 kilometers).
                Carrier Hunters

                The missiles are designed be be launched to a general location, where their guidance systems take over and spot carriers to attack with warheads intended to destroy the ships’ flight decks, launch catapults and control towers.

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                • You know. I would like to see a picture of the DF-21D? Let alone a test.

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                  • I wonder where Army Lieutenant General Michael Flynn and U.S. Navy Admiral Samuel Locklear got their information from, from a single source or multiple sources. From the Chinese BBS, they are saying we should see it within a year or two, and it isn't called DF-21D. I am always skeptical about DF-21D, but its existence seems not easily discredited yet.

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                    • I have been hearing the same thing for over 10 years now.

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                      • the question is, where is there any evidence of anything to support the DF-21nn and/or alleged capability in any shape or form?

                        eg anti-shipping systems all get tested on land as part of preliminary tests

                        one would expect to see evidence or a ballistic missile or even a cruise missile being used against a mobile land based target (as well as one that emulates a ship dimensionally).

                        there's no evidence of a BM being tested
                        there's no evidence of a weapons system being used long range against a mobile land based target
                        there's no corroboration that the targeting and tracking systems exist in extant systems

                        can they launch a BM against a static target? sure
                        can they launch same BM against a mobile target that would be alert and utilising all the tools at its disposal - and not just platform specific systems?
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