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Originally posted by gunnut View PostIf you are an American citizen but works overseas, you will still file a tax return. And that's when they get you.
I hope the IRS isn't listening... I only pay my taxes in Israel. I don't pay US taxes because I've yet had the opportunity to work in the US. I've worked in Israel, New Zealand and Australia, and paid my taxes in each place. Why would I pay taxes in a place I've never worked as well?Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Abusing Yellow is meant to be a labor of love, not something you sell to the highest bidder.
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This is a good explanation of why the boneheads of the world are wrong, and stupidly so. From PowerLine:
The basic asymmetry of American politics is that there are more conservatives than there are Republicans, while there are more Democrats than there are liberals. This is why Nancy Pelosi wasn't able to persuade anything like a unified caucus to vote for her government takeover of health care, and why Democratic Congressmen were competing for permission to vote against the bill.
Why is it, though, that while conservatives outnumber liberals by anywhere from one and a half to two to one, depending on the poll, there are significantly more Democrats than Republicans? There are a number of answers, but one of them is that conservatives, as a group, are insufficiently loyal to the Republican Party.
Back in our far-left days, we used to claim that there was no difference between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. ("Don't play good imperialist/bad imperialist" was one mantra.) That was stupid. Today, there are some on the right who say there is little or no difference between the parties--you hear this, for example, from some in the tea party movement. This is equally stupid. There are important differences between the parties, and the most practical thing conservatives can do in the political realm is try to build up the Republican Party.
Of course the Republicans aren't perfect. Of course they spent too much money when they controlled Congress. But the history of the Republican Party is, on the whole, a proud one--far more so than that of the Democratic Party. This is a theme to which I intend to recur in the months to come.
In the meantime, let's leave it with this: we were often critical of President George W. Bush. When he left office, I gave him a B- grade overall. But President Bush would have vetoed Pelosicare. This is the stark difference between our political parties: the Democrats are hell-bent on dismantling free enterprise and advancing government power over every aspect of our lives; the Republicans are not. Conservatives cannot afford to be neutral or indifferent as between the parties, nor can they afford the narcissism of third-party vanity campaigns. Conservatives must work every day to strengthen the Republican Party--it's the only hope we have. And, yes, strengthening the party will sometimes mean drawing the line at a Dede Scozzafava. But purity is not our object here; victory is.
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Originally posted by bigross86 View PostI hope the IRS isn't listening... I only pay my taxes in Israel. I don't pay US taxes because I've yet had the opportunity to work in the US. I've worked in Israel, New Zealand and Australia, and paid my taxes in each place. Why would I pay taxes in a place I've never worked as well?
Of course this loop hole could have been covered in the 2400+ pages of crap. I guess we'll find out what's in there now that it's passed by the house."Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
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Originally posted by gunnut View PostMy continuing question is do I automatically get government care if I pay the fine for not buying health insurance? If not, then how does this "law" provide 35 million more people with health care?
Why pay $4K+ a year for insurance if the fine is only $700?
If you're too poor, you will be forced onto medicaid- that's how they are going to get about 1/2 of that 35 million covered. If you have any assets, like a house, you won't be eligible for medicaid, so don't go that route."We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way." -President Barack Obama 11/25/2008
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Originally posted by highsea View PostOf course you won't get Gov't care. But the fine will be cheaper than the insurance, so you can wait till you get sick to buy the insurance, they won't be able to deny you coverage for your pre-existing condition.
Why pay $4K+ a year for insurance if the fine is only $700?
If you're too poor, you will be forced onto medicaid- that's how they are going to get about 1/2 of that 35 million covered. If you have any assets, like a house, you won't be eligible for medicaid, so don't go that route.
What a bargain!!!
Can we do that with our car insurance as well?"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
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Originally posted by bigross86 View PostI hope the IRS isn't listening... I only pay my taxes in Israel. I don't pay US taxes because I've yet had the opportunity to work in the US. I've worked in Israel, New Zealand and Australia, and paid my taxes in each place. Why would I pay taxes in a place I've never worked as well?
Your worldwide income is subject to U.S. income tax, regardless of where you reside.Last edited by silentsam; 23 Mar 10,, 19:59.Aut vincere aut mori
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Originally posted by gunnut View PostYou mean I can wait until I become injured or ill, go to the emergency room, get treated, then buy insurance to pay for it?
But if you contract some kind of chronic disease, you can wait till you actually need the insurance, and just pay the fine in the meantime.
Originally posted by gunnut View PostCan we do that with our car insurance as well?"We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way." -President Barack Obama 11/25/2008
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Originally posted by highsea View PostIf you use the ER you will get a bill. No getting around that, same as now.
Originally posted by highsea View PostBut if you contract some kind of chronic disease, you can wait till you actually need the insurance, and just pay the fine in the meantime.
Originally posted by highsea View PostYou could try, lol.
Do you think Boxer and Feinstein will take me seriously if I wrote to them asking for universal auto insurance? I am their constituent and a democrat, after all..."Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
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Originally posted by gunnut View PostDo you think Boxer and Feinstein will take me seriously if I wrote to them asking for universal auto insurance? I am their constituent and a democrat, after all..."The way to a man's heart is through his stomach...just make sure you thrust upward through his ribcage."
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Originally posted by gunnut View Post...Awesome! I've always had knee problems. I was foolish enough to buy health insurance in my youth just in case something might go wrong. Now I can drop it and wait until something goes wrong.:)
They made it so when you really need it, you can stop paying the Gov't and start paying the insurance company. They will forgive you when you do that, because you are sick and they feel sorry for you. This is known as "bringing you into the system".
The Gov't knows what is best for you and me. It's important to do what they want.
They made it too expensive for me to have employees, which means that they don't want me to have employees. So I laid everyone off, and I work by myself. I make more money for myself this way, so obviously that's what they want me to do. They are only looking out for my best interests."We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way." -President Barack Obama 11/25/2008
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Originally posted by gunnut View PostHey, driving is a civil right. Mobility is a human right.
unless i missed your searcasm, lol"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" B. Franklin
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Actually, if someone blocks you from crossing over a state border without due process, it violates your Fifth Amendment rights. (Thank you Tom Clancy)Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Abusing Yellow is meant to be a labor of love, not something you sell to the highest bidder.
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Originally posted by omon View Postnot a right but privilige, never heard of mobulity as a right.
unless i missed your searcasm, lol
Besides, where in the constitution does it say health care is a right?"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
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