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    Direct fire "Down Range"

    Bravo Battery 3-321FAR direct fire against the ridgline overlooking the FOB.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtyEngineer View Post
    The things I see on my travels!!!!!!!! This we did not anticipate during the design and development lol.


    And here is some more direct fire goodness. Papa Battery 5/14 Marines. FOrgive the spelling on the title screen lol


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    Very good video. Thankfully you guys can shoot better than you can spell.
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    YFC Washington

    Ah...Yakima Firing Center, Wa. Here's my old battery in the same training area doing it's direct fire-
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    Charge 2 Lima?

    So explain, please, what 2 Lima is?

    We always fired max charge on the 105mm series weapons with semi-fixed ammo. So too on the 155mm series using separate-loading. All we had was green bag and white bag charges and we wished to assure the flatest trajectory possible. I've since read/heard of a red-bag propellant for separate loading ammo. White bag was pretty hot and accelerated tube-wear significantly over green-bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-2 View Post
    So explain, please, what 2 Lima is?

    We always fired max charge on the 105mm series weapons with semi-fixed ammo. So too on the 155mm series using separate-loading. All we had was green bag and white bag charges and we wished to assure the flatest trajectory possible. I've since read/heard of a red-bag propellant for separate loading ammo. White bag was pretty hot and accelerated tube-wear significantly over green-bag.
    Its the new Modular Artillery Charge System (MACS) it only has 2 types of incrememts, the M231 Low Zone of which you fire 1 or 2 increments and the M232 High Zone of which you fire 3,4 or 5 increments. On the gunline its simply known as 1 or 2 Lima and 3,4 or 5 Hotel.

    See below for approximate equivilents with existing bag charges:


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    "On the gunline its simply known as 1 or 2 Lima and 3,4 or 5 Hotel."

    Solid. MACS. Thanks, A.E.
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    AE,

    A few questions, before I start a rant.

    What charge is the range lines on the direct Fire scope calibrated for?

    Is there a Direct Fire data plate on the gun and what charge is it set up for?

    Of course you know what my rant is about. Firing a reduced charge DF exercise is a waste of training dollars, time and ammo.

    I would assume that the 777 is set up for 3 High. Though you did mention something about low angle and high charges a while back.

    Another question, for the SME. I've noticed the A-gunners standing a good distance from the gun while pulling the lanyard. As in your 3/321 firing. Don't they know that the closer you are to the tube, the less muzzle blast you eat? I know there isn't much at 6 ft. But there is a lot less at the trunions.

    As for the other pic. You never rode the muzzle? We use to tie one end of a rope around a new crew members legs or bottom of his sleeping bag and the other around the muzzle brake and run him up to around 1000 Mils back in the day. On the 109 we would throw in a free demonstration of the 6400 mil traverse capability

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    "We use to tie one end of a rope around ... bottom of his sleeping bag..."

    While he was sleeping? Upside-down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-2 View Post
    "We use to tie one end of a rope around ... bottom of his sleeping bag..."

    While he was sleeping? Upside-down?
    Way more compliant that way.

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    Gun Grape

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    AE,

    A few questions, before I start a rant.

    What charge is the range lines on the direct Fire scope calibrated for
    The M777 uses the same M138 Elbow Telescope on the M172 Mount as the M198, so the reticle in the scope has a Mil Scale allowing the AG to set super elevation just looking thorugh the scope based on what the direct fire data plate tells him for what ever range they estimate the target to be at.

    Is there a Direct Fire data plate on the gun and what charge is it set up for?
    Yes, it displays Quadrant Data for both the M107 and M795 Projectiles using MACS Zone 3 Hotel and the M4 Zone 7 (7 White) charges.

    Of course you know what my rant is about. Firing a reduced charge DF exercise is a waste of training dollars, time and ammo.
    Couldnt agree more!!!!

    I would assume that the 777 is set up for 3 High. Though you did mention something about low angle and high charges a while back.
    Yep, 3 High and 7 White are what was used for the DF Range Plate, Shooting 4 or 5 Hotel or 7 Red or 8 Super below 300 mils QE is a good way to get yourself run over by a rapidly displacing howitzer!!!!!

    Another question, for the SME. I've noticed the A-gunners standing a good distance from the gun while pulling the lanyard. As in your 3/321 firing. Don't they know that the closer you are to the tube, the less muzzle blast you eat? I know there isn't much at 6 ft. But there is a lot less at the trunions.
    They are probably shooting Zone 4 or 5 and fear of getting run over makes them keep back!!!!

    As for the other pic. You never rode the muzzle? We use to tie one end of a rope around a new crew members legs or bottom of his sleeping bag and the other around the muzzle brake and run him up to around 1000 Mils back in the day. On the 109 we would throw in a free demonstration of the 6400 mil traverse capability:biggrin
    I have indeed been up for a scenic look round, I however was securely taped to teh tube and not voluntarily sitting on the muzzlebrake!!!!

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    Quote:
    Another question, for the SME. I've noticed the A-gunners standing a good distance from the gun while pulling the lanyard. As in your 3/321 firing. Don't they know that the closer you are to the tube, the less muzzle blast you eat? I know there isn't much at 6 ft. But there is a lot less at the trunions.

    They are probably shooting Zone 4 or 5 and fear of getting run over makes them keep back!!!!



    It's been standard practice to stand away from the aritllery piece while firing as something just might break off and you don't want to be in the way. Even the bursting of a recoil piston can be hazardous to your health.

    I recall seeing some newsreel film of a British artillery crew in Iraq firing their 8-incher. After loading they all ran and dived into a trench or foxhole and the lanyard was long enough to fire the gun. With the power of a full charge and being a "light weight" gun (for versatility in transportation) it's not a bad idea to be under cover if the breech block decides become a hockey puck or the barrel splits open sending the muzzle end down range with chunks of the break flying all around.

    Tankers, of course, don't have protecion from a broken breech block or split recoil pistons, but at least they have some armor plate between them and a split barrel. During the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, a photo was displayed of a Russian tank with a "sawed off" barrel (done with an oxy-acetylene cutting torch). It apparently split in two so the Russians merely cut it back to use as a howitzer more than a direct fire gun.

    That may have been innovative and a credit to the tank crew to keep their vehicle in service. But it also hints of the Russians having a poor logistics system and no repair depot to replace the gun.
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    "It's been standard practice to stand away from the aritllery piece while firing..."

    No it isn't. Standing away from the recoil IS standard practice but, as example, there's not much stand-away room inside the cab of an M109 series self-propelled howitzer. Gunner, AG, #1 man and section chief are squeezed in there.

    To further illustrate this point watch this gun section firing a towed weapon-

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-2 View Post
    "It's been standard practice to stand away from the aritllery piece while firing..."

    No it isn't. Standing away from the recoil IS standard practice but, as example, there's not much stand-away room inside the cab of an M109 series self-propelled howitzer. Gunner, AG, #1 man and section chief are squeezed in there.

    To further illustrate this point watch this gun section firing a towed weapon-
    That's pretty much of what I said about tank crews. But then I suppose it depends upon either the "quality" or the "confidence" of the gun itself such as the news video I mentioned of the Brits diving into trenches before firing their gun.

    But then I've become very safety conscious over the years after a Destroyer at Pier 3 inadvertantly fired a 5-incher over Pier 2. Witnessing (as an inspector) 200% overload tests on ship rigging systems and watching a steel long link connector breaking in two with one half stopping just a few feet from me on the deck. Leaning over the portside handrail on 05 level of a BB and having Mount 52 whiz a VT Non-Frag past my nose. Leaning over the starboard handrail of a Destroyer watching another one come alongside and having its anchor rip open the ASROC magazine just below me.

    Also while flying a little Cessna 150 I looked up from my instrument check and saw a Lockheed Electra coming straight at me. Learned how to be a stunt pilot REAL quick.

    Better safe than sorry as I sometimes wonder how I stayed alive this long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBattleship View Post
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    It's been standard practice to stand away from the aritllery piece while firing as something just might break off and you don't want to be in the way. Even the bursting of a recoil piston can be hazardous to your health.
    As S-2 said. Stay out of the path of the recoiling parts. Other than that you want to stay close to the gun. Less blast pressure hitting you and lower noise level.
    I recall seeing some newsreel film of a British artillery crew in Iraq firing their 8-incher. After loading they all ran and dived into a trench or foxhole and the lanyard was long enough to fire the gun. With the power of a full charge and being a "light weight" gun (for versatility in transportation) it's not a bad idea to be under cover if the breech block decides become a hockey puck or the barrel splits open sending the muzzle end down range with chunks of the break flying all around.

    Biggest towed guns the Royal Artillery (UK) own are the 105mm L119s.

    We sacrifice virgins to St Barbara to keep the howitzers from doing bad things to us.

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    Mike Battery 3/14 Annual Training

    One of my favorite bunches of guys to hang out with. Mike Battery form Chattanooga TN. The Motor T Chief can get his hands on some VERY good Moonshine



    And here is a "Bed time story" sent out over the battery net.



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