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  • Bismark & Tirpitz

    i know the 2 ships manuvered together briefly before bismark departed for his sortie in 41 , what i want to know is are there any pics of them together

  • #2
    Never seen a pic of both ships together, and have never heard they "maneuvered" together, either. Tirpitz wasn't ready for combat until after Bismarck was sunk, so if they ever went to sea together, I'd think it was just working up.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Pacfanweb View Post
      Never seen a pic of both ships together, and have never heard they "maneuvered" together, either. Tirpitz wasn't ready for combat until after Bismarck was sunk, so if they ever went to sea together, I'd think it was just working up.
      yes i was a working up and thats the pics im looking for ;)

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      • #4
        Only thing I could find was a thread over at the kbismarck forums, where some guy claims he's seen photos from some private collection of them both together....and is supposedly trying to get them released.

        There is some other alleged photo of them supposedly taken overhead from an ME-109, but the people in that same thread say it's a fake.

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        • #5
          You know about this web site? Bismarck & Tirpitz I went through the pictures, did not see any. I am a big WWII German Navy fan, I do not recall seeing them together in any pictures.
          Bismarck...
          Launched 2/14/39, commissioned 8/24/40 & sunk 5/27/41.
          Tirpitz...
          Launched 4/1/39, commissioned 2/25/41 & sunk 11/12/44.

          They were launched within 2 months of each other but commissioned 6 months apart. They would have had time to work up together. According to the both ships operational history, Hitler inspected both ships at Gdynia on 5/4/41 and he stayed aboard for about 4 hours. It would be really great to see them together in a picture.
          Last edited by Ken_NJ; 29 Jan 10,, 03:36.

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          • #6
            There are few, you just need to know where to look. Ill try to find them over the weekend. Some may also be in private collections. It's not out of the ordinary to find pictures in private collections that have not been published before.
            Last edited by Dreadnought; 29 Jan 10,, 15:12.
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            • #7
              if they are out there that would b great

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              • #8
                Originally posted by THOMAS81Z View Post
                if they are out there that would b great
                *There is a guy who posts on another site (KBismark.org). He claims to have knowledge of a half-tone (i believe half-tone) shot of both Bismark and Tirpitz together on manuver. "Supposedly" this shot was taken in the Baltic at Gdynia during April/May while on manuvers in 1941 from an overhead Me109. This picture supposely belongs to a private collection and had never been published to date. I dont know how true this claim is but I still wouldn't be surprised if real pictures do indeed exist. Most capital ships of the Kreigsmarine were photographed both at sea and on manuvers and so were their escorts along side them. It would not be out of the ordinary, but you would have thought that someone would have /could have published one of them by now some 60 years later.

                *A thought of mention that I do agree with from another poster though
                In Baron Müllenheim-Rechberg’s book (I have a copy) there is only one sentence regarding a brief sighting of TIRPITZ in the Gulf of Danzig. And no mention in Bismarks book. If she was sighted briefly by Bismark then I can imagine this photograph from the me109 could not possibly be all that clear. Supposeldy they had sailed together for approxiamtely 6 hours but yet no mention of this in the Baron's book or Bismarks. I guess only time will tell if indeed such a picture exists. We will have to wait and find out.
                Last edited by Dreadnought; 02 Feb 10,, 19:16.
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                • #9
                  I thought I read on that thread at kbismarck the general consensus was the ME-109 photo was a fake?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pacfanweb View Post
                    I thought I read on that thread at kbismarck the general consensus was the ME-109 photo was a fake?
                    IMO, chances are that it is indeed a remake. I cant see that a picture like that would hang around all this time and not be published at some point. Given how many books have been written and such.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dreadnought View Post
                      IMO, chances are that it is indeed a remake. I cant see that a picture like that would hang around all this time and not be published at some point. Given how many books have been written and such.
                      I'd still like to see it, though.

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