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    I cant offer any commentary at this time about Iranian strategy and policy towards the conflict in Afghanistan but i think this article will make some useful reading to other members here who are interested in how less visible 'regional players' (ie Iran) are approaching the latest developments regarding Afghanistan.

    Iran waits in the wings
    By Kaveh L Afrasiabi

    On the eve of the major conference on Thursday in London that will bring together senior officials from all of the governments taking part in the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan as well as Afghanistan's neighbors, donors and the United Nations, Iran was still debating whether or not to attend.

    However, even if the Iranians do not show up, they will for the immediate future continue to push internationally for a regional approach to stabilizing Afghanistan. This was one of the conditions Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki set for Iran to attend the meeting.

    "The occupying forces are now facing great problems as they have no comprehensive knowledge and information about Afghanistan and we are quite confident that they will leave the country regretfully," said Mohammad Reza Rahimi, Iran's first vice president, ahead of a pre-London warmer in Istanbul this week that brought together the heads of states of Turkey, Pakistan and Afghanistan, as well as representatives from China, Tajkistan, Turkmenistan and some international observers.

    "Although Iran appreciates Turkey's constructive mediation between Kabul and Islamabad, we have some misgivings about Ankara's excessive involvement in reaching out to the extremists, who may be the net beneficiaries of all these conferences that pay so much attention to making a deal with them," said a Tehran University political science professor.

    He added that the lack of any border between Turkey and Afghanistan and the absence of any strong historical links between the two countries set "definite limits" on the scope of Turkey's involvement in Afghan affairs. This was irrespective of Turkey's "token presence" as part of the multinational force; Turkey has close to 2,000 forces there and may send another 1,000 in the near future.

    Ahead of the London summit, everyone seems to be on board with the idea of a "political solution to the conflict", to paraphrase the top US commander in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, in his recent interview with the Financial Times of London. Even Afghan President Hamid Karzai is reported to have come up with his own "reconciliation plan" that calls for the integration of aspects of the Taliban, provided that they lay down their arms, which appears somewhat wishful thinking.

    The news from Pakistan, which uses the lever of the Taliban for its own "games of strategy" vis-a-vis New Delhi, is that the government has been in communication with the Taliban "at all levels".

    Certainly, that is welcome news to the Taliban's main backers in Saudi Arabia, one of the few governments in the world that recognized the Taliban regime before its demise in 2001, and Tehran's main concern is that the London conference would be billed as a victory for the Saudi diplomacy that counts on close connections between Islamabad and Riyadh.


    But then again, it is far from given that in this new hectic season of conference diplomacy on Afghanistan much change in the realities on the ground will emerge, including the much talked about transfer of authority in some areas to Afghan forces. If the latter were prepared and capable of assuming such control, Kabul would have by now managed to convince the occupying forces to leave. With the Afghan parliamentary elections now postponed to September over "security concerns", any hasty decision to reduce the presence of the multinational forces in favor of Afghan forces would most likely backfire and aggravate those security concerns.

    Iran's conundrum, on the other hand, is that it seeks a greater and more prominent role at the table in London precisely at a time when Iran-Britain relations have hit a new low and there are strong moves in the Iranian parliament (Majlis) to substantially downgrade Tehran's diplomatic ties with London over the perceived anti-Iran positions of the British government. However, the fact that both Rahimi and British Foreign Secretary David Miliband were present at the Istanbul meeting may have broken some ice, depending on any discussions on the sidelines of that conference. Indeed, if the Turks are adamant about their mediation role, it would be fitting for them to mediate between Tehran and London, given their cordial relations with both sides.

    "Iran's number one priority for Afghanistan right now is capacity building for the Kabul regime, on economic, political and, above all, security fronts," said another Tehran foreign policy expert at the think-tank, Center For Strategic Research. When asked what the number two priority is, he responded that it was a timetable for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's departure.

    That may be, but the more immediate, and pressing, priority of Iran is to make its weight felt at the international forums on Afghanistan that are due to take place in 2010, including the Moscow meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in April. This is in light of Iran's observer status at the SCO, which comprises China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

    In addition, Tehran is planning its own regional meeting on Afghanistan in late spring, hoping that it will have a better outcome than the trilateral conference in Pakistan two weeks ago that was by all accounts a failure. This was not least because Afghan Foreign Minister Rangin Dadfar Spanta had just learned that parliament had voted to replace him.

    Since then, the Tehran media have been critical of Iran's Foreign Ministry for delivering a mini-victory to Pakistan, which does not quite see eye-to-eye with Iran or Afghanistan, given the serious frictions between Kabul and Islamabad over the former's suspicion of the latter's collusion with the Taliban.

    There is also the delicate linkage between the Afghan quagmire and the Iran nuclear standoff and Tehran's ability to raise the costs there for the US, Germany, France and United Kingdom, ie, the key Western governments involved in the nuclear negotiations with Iran that are plotting more sanctions against Iran both unilaterally and multilaterally. Tehran is already very unhappy with Germany's cancellation of a huge gas deal after a recent meeting between Chancellor Angela Merkel and visiting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    No one should underestimate Iran's potential to cause a great deal of mischief in Afghanistan, where a number of warlords who resided in Iran for years during the Soviet occupation in the 1980s and the Taliban era in the late 1990s have strong ties with Tehran.

    For now, however, Iran appears to be on the same page in the search for a "common approach", although sources tell this author that Iran considers the recent announcement by the UN pointman on Afghanistan regarding the UN's preparedness to remove the name of some Taliban leaders from its black list to be "premature".


    This is in sharp contrast to Pakistan, which is seeking legitimacy for Taliban leader Mullah Omar, who is believed to be spending time in Pakistan. Tehran's concern is that any concessions granted to the Taliban at the conferences will enhance their legitimacy at the expense of Karzai's government, irrespective of Karzai's frantic conference diplomacy aimed at sparking a new level of international financial commitment to his country.

    "Afghanistan's problem demands a regional solution. We do not accept unilateralism and we should not re-try the failed policies toward Afghanistan. The unilateral and military approach is not the solution," Mottaki stated at the trilateral meeting in Istanbul. He reiterated Tehran's stance that US President Barack Obama's military surge policy would only "exacerbate" the problem by intensifying anti-occupation sentiment in Afghanistan.

    But the idea of a "common approach" as long as there are great divides between countries in terms of varying national interests, geopolitical considerations and security competitions appears vacuous, especially as Tehran is convinced that no matter how many times Afghan and Pakistan leaders meet to shake hands before the glare of the world media, the underlying causes of a growing security rift between the two countries remain.

    As a result, in the coming months, if Tehran feels its pessimism is justified, it may back down from its "regional approach" and seek cooperation with Pakistan's chief nemesis, India, on Afghanistan. Indeed, all the signs indicate that when it comes to Afghanistan, another trilateral grouping consisting of Iran, India (another observer country at SCO) and Afghanistan may make more sense, at least as far as Iran's national security interests are concerned. The nub of Afghanistan's problem is, after all, its growing emergence at the nodal point of a grand competition between NATO and the SCO.

  • #2
    Thought that some members here would be interested to know that there is an Indo-Iran 'joint commission' taking place in India currently with the Indians having largely set the agenda for it; Afghanistan seemingly being the major and underlying theme.

    The Indian view has been broadly outlined in the below speech (came across it first on ISRIA.com) and if anything can be drawn from it, is revealing of India's near total dependence now on Iran to see through its (India's) Afghan strategy and seeks to draw Iran much further into the Afghan theatre, in alignment of course with the Indians (no guarantee that will actually happen tho).

    Its interesting for me in anycase to read the Indian take on things. There are many tidbits in this speech that i dont agree with and am not sure whether or not they were included as some kind of diplomatic niceties/convention/courtesy or whatever or if the Indians actually believe in some of those things but the overall substance of the proposals i think should find favour in Iran. But i cant imagine that will go down too will with the US, especially after the latest round of UN and US sanctions.

    Speech by Foreign Secretary at IDSA-IPIS Strategic Dialogue on India and Iran: an enduring relationship

    05/07/2010

    Shri N.S. Sisodia, Ambassador Nabizadeh, Dr. Mostafa Dolatyar and the distinguished participants from India and Iran in this Strategic Dialogue.

    2. Over the years, the IDSA-IPIS Dialogue has become an important forum for in-depth discussion on a wide range of issues concerning the bilateral, regional and global context of our relations with Iran. I am therefore delighted to be here this morning to deliver the keynote address of the IDSA-IPIS Dialogue. Your deliberations today will no doubt, provide important inputs and insights on the India-Iran interaction as also new thoughts and ideas on the future path of this relationship.

    3. The question often asked is how we define the importance of Iran for India in strategic terms. I shall attempt to do so. First of all, Iran is part of what has been defined as India’s “proximate neighbourhood”; secondly, it has a strategic position with a long coastline along the Persian Gulf, including the narrow entrance to the Gulf at the Straits of Hormuz – a region within the security parameter of India; thirdly, it is a major source of our energy and hydrocarbon supplies; fourthly, in a globalizing world where there are immense opportunities for Indian business and investment, and as both our societies seek socio-economic transformation, the scope for technical and economic cooperation with Iran is self-evident; fifthly, the threats we face from terrorism and extremism require intensified dialogue and cooperation between our two governments; and to round this off, we share many common interests in the multilateral sphere. The narrative of our relations against the background of our long-standing civilizational ties, is therefore one of fundamental complementarities and natural affinities.

    4. It is certainly true that the civilizational relationship between India and Iran is unique in the world. Speaking in Tehran in 1958, India's first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru had said that he doubted if there are any two countries in the wide world which have had such close and long historical contact as Iran and India. It is true that when we look at our monuments, our culture and our language, our cuisine and literature as also our intuitive societal reaction to the world around us, there is much that is in common between our two nations. And, where links between our two peoples are concerned, India and Iran are particularly blessed, because of the close people-to-people connection and constant interaction that has spanned centuries of trade and commerce and cultural exchanges and journeys of the mind. Most importantly, ties at the popular level remain vibrant, driven by not just businessman, students and tourists but also the millions of people in both countries who may have never set foot in the other country, but are conscious of their rich shared heritage, and have an instinctive feeling of goodwill towards the other.

    5. This then provides us the bedrock on which to build our contemporary relations. I would argue that the India-Iran relationship will become even more important with the inevitable rise of both India and Iran in this century, which has been dubbed by many as the Asian century. Most scholars foresee a resurgence of the Asian Continent, not just in economic terms, where India’s economy is among the fastest growing in the world, but also in science and technology, in new and renewable energies, and in all the fields that are at the cutting edge of human innovation and progress.

    6. The challenge we face is the following: First, how do our two countries grasp the strategic opportunities for cooperation between India and Iran? Second, how do we build a pragmatic, and therefore enduring relationship, rising above hoary ideological positions, ensuring that our multi-faceted ties are not held hostage to merely one or two issues? Thirdly, do we have the tools to leverage such a relationship to benefit our people and their standard of living, which is ultimately the goal of our foreign policy?

    7. Let me say that India desires to promote and enhance relations with Iran in a way that serves the interests of our two countries. Our approach to Iran is embedded within the rationale that defines our foreign policy – our developmental priorities, our independent national interest, our commitment to multi-polarity over uni-polarity, our consciousness of the inequities in the global order today. Our relations with Iran are a fundamental component of our ‘Look West” policy in our immediate region, just as our “Look East” policy has propelled our relations with the countries of ASEAN and East Asia.

    8. If we consider the specific areas where our interests converge and potential for cooperation is the greatest, the most important is regional stability. India and Iran shared a common border till 1947. We are both neighbours of Afghanistan and Pakistan and have both long suffered from the threat of transnational terrorism emanating from beyond our borders. India, like Iran, is supportive of the efforts of the Afghan Government and people to build a democratic, pluralistic and peaceful Afghanistan. Neither of our countries wish to see the prospect of fundamentalist and extremist groups once again suppressing the aspirations of the Afghan people and forcing Afghanistan back to being a training ground and sanctuary for terrorist groups. Our vision of Afghanistan as a hub for economic activity, trade and transit linking South and Central Asia is shared by the Iranian side. India and Iran also share an interest in the stability of Central Asia and the Persian Gulf. It is but natural that our assessment of the regional situation is very similar. We need to move beyond mere articulation of positions as the Afghan conundrum deepens and could have a deleterious impact on our two countries and the region in case the forces of extremism and obscurantism are made arbiters of the fate of the Afghan people. Our cooperation and information sharing on counter-terrorism must be the subject of more intensive focus and attention in the future.

    9. I had the pleasure of having detailed discussions with my Iranian counterpart, Deputy Foreign Minister Fathollahi, during my visit to Tehran this February for Foreign Office Consultations. I sensed on many of the above issues, a convergence of views with my Iranian colleagues. I would today reiterate the need for structured, systematic and regular consultations with Iran on the situation in Afghanistan. It is also important that we build upon the progress already made on our joint cooperation projects in the region, and put in place mechanisms for carrying forward our cooperation in these areas. I would like to mention, in particular, the Chabahar Port Project, and the need for accelerating our joint efforts to fully realize the potential of the Port as well as the associated railway project. These are projects that are in the common interest of India, Iran and Afghanistan, but also the countries of Central Asia. Improving the connectivity of Chabahar Port to the Zaranj-Delaram Highway (which was built with Indian assistance despite terrorist threats and with the sacrifice of Indian and Afghan lives, and has transformed the economy of Nimroz Province in Afghanistan) will open up the Indian market to Afghan agricultural and other exports. It will also help in combating the scourge of illicit drugs production and export which has affected Iran more than any other country, and assist the trade, transport and transit network of Iran. It will help India transport its goods, including humanitarian supplies, to Afghanistan, Central Asia and beyond.

    This project is thus at the heart of the common vision that India and Iran have for Afghanistan and the region as a whole, of increased and easier flow of goods, and creation of a network of transport routes and energy pipelines that will bind our people together in an arc of stability, prosperity and peace. The International North South Corridor Project, which also includes Russia and the Central Asian Republics in addition to India and Iran, is also a concept awaiting operationalization on the ground. We would welcome greater interest on part of the Iranian Government and private sector in realizing these projects, which should be seen not only as commercial but also as strategic in nature, not just for India, but also for all the countries in the region.

    10. Iran is a country extremely important to India from the perspective of energy security. There is a natural complementarity between the needs of energy-hungry India which hopes to grow at a rate of 8-10% in the coming years and Iran which is home to third largest proven oil reserves and second largest gas reserves. Iran is not only located relatively close to India permitting transportation of oil and gas at relatively low cost over sea as well as land, it also has the potential of being a transit country for supply of third country energy to India given its increasing links in this field with the landlocked countries of Central Asia. The Iran- Pakistan-India; Turkmenistan-Afghanistan- Pakistan-India and SAGE undersea pipeline projects deserve special mention in this regard. These projects, if realised, have the potential of making Iran an important element of a large energy corridor stretching from Central Asia to India. India has repeatedly made clear the fact that accessing energy resources from all parts of the world is absolutely critical to the continued growth of its economy and Iran has the potential to play an important role in this regard.

    11. Economic relationships, including in the energy sector help develop further complementarities and interdependencies, which are, in the modern world, more valuable than any number of political sermons or speeches of goodwill. We must strive to nurture these relationships, with a strategic perspective in mind. Our bilateral Joint Commission, headed by our External Affairs Minister and the Iranian Minister for Economic Affairs and Finance, will be meeting from July 8-9 to discuss a range of bilateral issues which are of direct benefit to our two peoples. The Indian side looks forward to these discussions and the follow up meetings to instill fresh momentum in India-Iran relations, particularly in the strategic areas that I have identified above.

    12. Another potential area of cooperation for our countries is in maritime security. Indian interest in the Indian Ocean region and the proximate neighbourhood of which both our countries are a part, focuses on the need for regional peace and stability, mutually beneficial relations with littoral states, accessibility of oil and gas resources, the freedom of navigation through the Persian Gulf and the Straits of Hormuz, and access to regional markets for our goods, technology, investment, labour and services. The Indian Ocean touches both our nations, and we cannot remain immune to the challenges that we face, including an increase in piracy off the coast of Africa, and beyond. We welcome suggestions from the Iranian side on how to carry forward a dialogue on cooperation in this area. We would welcome Iran’s participation in the Indian Ocean Naval Symposium.

    13. I would like to briefly touch on the Iran nuclear issue. India’s position on the issue has been consistent. We support the right of all States to undertake peaceful uses of nuclear energy consistent with their international obligations. We have conveyed to our interlocutors that all concerned should adopt a flexible approach to achieve a comprehensive solution to all issues. India has always supported dialogue and avoidance of confrontation.

    14. The IAEA continues to provide the best framework for addressing technical issues related to the Iranian nuclear programme. We are justifiably concerned that the extra-territorial nature of certain unilateral sanctions recently imposed by individual countries, with their restrictions on investment by third countries in Iran’s energy sector, can have a direct and adverse impact on Indian companies and more importantly, on our energy security and our attempts to meet the development needs of our people.

    15. As in the case of all multi-faceted, constructive relations between old friends, it is natural that we may have differences on one or the other issue, but I would submit that the areas of convergence far outweigh any differences. It is vital that we keep the larger picture of our relations in mind, in particular the strategic potential of our ties. I am confident that in the coming decade, the impulse in both our countries towards similar positions on a whole range of economic, political and strategic issues will remain strong. We are of the region and will belong here forever, even as outsiders come and go. Our region is, moreover, one that is rising, though yet to realize its full potential. It is in this long-term context that we must see India-Iran relations.

    16. I look forward to carefully studying and learning from the outcome of your deliberations. I extend to our Iranian guests the warmest good wishes of the people and Government of India and through you to your leadership and your Government. The India – Iran relationship is good for the people of our two countries, for the region and for the world as a whole, and it is our historical responsibility to further enhance these relations.

    Thank you.

    New Delhi
    July 5, 2010

    Original source: Ministry of External Affairs, India

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 1980s View Post
      Thought that some members here would be interested to know that there is an Indo-Iran 'joint commission' taking place in India currently with the Indians having largely set the agenda for it; Afghanistan seemingly being the major and underlying theme.

      The Indian view has been broadly outlined in the below speech (came across it first on ISRIA.com) and if anything can be drawn from it, is revealing of India's near total dependence now on Iran to see through its (India's) Afghan strategy and seeks to draw Iran much further into the Afghan theatre, in alignment of course with the Indians (no guarantee that will actually happen tho).

      Its interesting for me in anycase to read the Indian take on things. There are many tidbits in this speech that i dont agree with and am not sure whether or not they were included as some kind of diplomatic niceties/convention/courtesy or whatever or if the Indians actually believe in some of those things but the overall substance of the proposals i think should find favour in Iran. But i cant imagine that will go down too will with the US, especially after the latest round of UN and US sanctions.
      Out of curiosity, which parts (in keeping it relavant to this thread, specifically regarding Iran, India and A'stan) do you disagree with? And why?

      Of course there is a lot of diplomatic b.s. regarding other topics in that speech; especially IPI, TAPI and nuclear issue. It is to be expected.

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      • #4
        The only thing Iran wants is to be able to input their own people to corrupt the Afghans government and sow future roots of extrememism and hard core Islamic rule. Same reasons they have infiltrated other governments.;)
        Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dreadnought View Post
          The only thing Iran wants is to be able to input their own people to corrupt the Afghans government and sow future roots of extrememism and hard core Islamic rule. Same reasons they have infiltrated other governments.;)
          Dred,

          Iranians are Shia, most Afghans are Sunni - a hard core Islamic govenment in Afghanistan would become Iran's enemy and a tool of its strategic and ideological rivals fom KSA and UAE. Fundamentalist Sunnis consider Shia as the worst kind of heretics, only one step above apostates in their spectrum of the "damned peoples".

          I can see Iran as having three major strategic objectives in keeping a stable Afghanistan not dominated by Pathans: 1. Thwart Pakistan's neo-imperialist ambitions (the first "A" in PAK stands for "Afghania"), 2. Deny Saudis and other Arabs a way to encircle Iran with militant Sunni regimes, and 3. Control a good fraction of Central Asian natural gas and oil flowing southwards. Plus there are smaller objectives, like putting a lid on the narcotics trade.

          I agree with zraver's observation some time back that in a more sane and logical world Iran would have been the US's biggest ally in the Mid-East and CA after 9/11... seeing how their long-term stategic goals resonate so clearly in both A'stan and Iraq.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cactus View Post
            Dred,

            Iranians are Shia, most Afghans are Sunni - a hard core Islamic govenment in Afghanistan would become Iran's enemy and a tool of its strategic and ideological rivals fom KSA and UAE. Fundamentalist Sunnis consider Shia as the worst kind of heretics, only one step above apostates in their spectrum of the "damned peoples".

            I can see Iran as having three major strategic objectives in keeping a stable Afghanistan not dominated by Pathans: 1. Thwart Pakistan's neo-imperialist ambitions (the first "A" in PAK stands for "Afghania"), 2. Deny Saudis and other Arabs a way to encircle Iran with militant Sunni regimes, and 3. Control a good fraction of Central Asian natural gas and oil flowing southwards. Plus there are smaller objectives, like putting a lid on the narcotics trade.

            I agree with zraver's observation some time back that in a more sane and logical world Iran would have been the US's biggest ally in the Mid-East and CA after 9/11... seeing how their long-term stategic goals resonate so clearly in both A'stan and Iraq.
            *The US has seen Iranian influence in Iraq under the very same conditions Sunni/Shia. This is why Sadir left Iraq and returned to Iran among several other reasons that can be noted. Iran does not need direct influence, all she needs are proxies such as Hamas pitted against Israel and Hezbollah. Western Afghanistan has for a long time swayed to Iranian influence as well as the extrememists in Afghanistan that have be caught numerous times with Iranian arms. They can even pinpoint the cities in Iran being used to train these individuals.

            Karzai has also numerous times announced an unrelenting support for the Iranian regime particularly during their past election. Turkey also seems to have an Iranian influence in its government these days owing to both trade and political actions. When Iran is supporting anything you can bet it has much to do with their radical brand of Islam and extremeism. A rat in the house.;)
            Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cactus View Post
              Out of curiosity, which parts (in keeping it relavant to this thread, specifically regarding Iran, India and A'stan) do you disagree with? And why?
              I guess what we could term the 'talk around the issues', ie, points 3, 4 etc and other comments of that nature. What the speaker dubbed unique “civilizational ties” and so on. That perspective isnt shared by Iranians, past or present. India isnt very important to Iran, historically speaking or in the present. Iranian dignitaries spend far more time in Latin America and Africa than they do in India for example, despite Iran’s closer geographical proximity to the subcontinent.

              There have been one or two points in Iran’s history where India has been the largest trading partner of Iran. But for political or cultural importance, India has not been important for Iran, ever. But i can see why Iran may have been important for India in the past for those reasons.

              That’s all i found disagreeable in the speech and that kind of attempt to woo Iranian support isn’t going to work with Iranians since we dont think in the same way towards India, especially the post-revolutionary regime which doesn’t care about ancient history or the past given its revolutionary nature and foundations which, naturally, seeks to re-create Iran and define Iran’s present and future from the revolution onwards, and not what Iran was before this. Especially not the Iran of some distant past which always had much closer ties to the Near East, Caucasus and Central Asia than to India in anycase.

              The substance of the speech tho i have no disagreements with; ie development of Chabahar port and linking it by rail and road to Afghanistan and beyond. I think if the Indians want the Islamic regime in Iran to take them more seriously, then they need to cut-out the small talk from their diplomacy and just get straight to the point. Talking about ancient history just looks kinda foolish or out-of-place, especially when the narrative and perceptions on each side are clearly so different.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dreadnought View Post
                Western Afghanistan has for a long time swayed to Iranian influence as well as the extrememists in Afghanistan that have be caught numerous times with Iranian arms. They can even pinpoint the cities in Iran being used to train these individuals.

                Karzai has also numerous times announced an unrelenting support for the Iranian regime particularly during their past election. Turkey also seems to have an Iranian influence in its government these days owing to both trade and political actions. When Iran is supporting anything you can bet it has much to do with their radical brand of Islam and extremeism. A rat in the house.;)
                Iran's regime has sought influence in western Afghanistan, it doesnt necessarily have it tho outside of economics. Herat for most of its history was an Iranian city, and much of western Afghanistan was Iran before too. Thats why people there speak Persian and share a broader culture with Iranians. But in terms of political influence, i think the 'Iranian influence' in those parts of Afghanistan is overstated. Afterall not too long ago there were anti-Iran demonstrations in Herat and several other cities in Afghanistan over the alleged mistreatment of Afghans living in Iran. People in western Afghanistan are also wary of Iran's revolutionary Shi'a brand of political Islam. The majority of Persians/Tajiks in Afghanistan are Sonnis, unlike Iranians who are mainly Shi'a. This is something that ordinary people in Afghanistan are conscious, and wary about, when it comes to Iran.

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                • #9
                  1980s,

                  It is standard diplo-speak. If India established diplomatic relations with planet Krypton, the conference would still begin with due and routine mention of ancient links etc.

                  Right now there seems to be a convergence of interests on Afghanistan and access to Central Asian resources, hence the niceties. Things can change other ways just as well.

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