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    A New Wave of Anti-Japan Demonstrations in China (news pictures inside)

    More than 20,000 protest in Shanghai
    Saturday, April 16, 2005 Posted: 1137 GMT (1937 HKT) http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/as....ap/index.html



    "Even though information was available beforehand to infer that there would be a demonstration, nothing was done to prevent it ... and we strongly protest to the Chinese government," Japan's Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

    It denounced the "destructive and violent actions" of the protesters and called anew for the Chinese government to prevent a recurrence.

    Foreign Minister Nobutaka Machimura was asked by reporters if he planned to cancel a trip to Beijing on Sunday.

    "That option is not out of the question, but at present we are proceeding as planned," Machimura was quoted as saying by Akira Chiba, assistant press secretary at the ministry.

    Anti-Japanese protests erupted Saturday in at least three cities, including a demonstration by 20,000 people in Shanghai, China. Protesters last week damaged the Japanese Embassy in Beijing and Japanese businesses, and attacked three Japanese students.

    The tensions have been fueled by lingering Chinese anger over Japan's aggression during World War II and anxieties at Tokyo's new military and diplomatic ambitions, as well as a territorial dispute.

    Last week's protests occurred after Tokyo approved a school history textbook that critics say whitewashes Japan's wartime atrocities.

    Japan demanded an apology from the Chinese government and said it had not done enough to prevent the protests. Beijing, however, claims Tokyo is to blame for the passions because it has not properly atoned for historical wrongs.

    The statement Saturday rejected Beijing's stance, saying such violence was not justified under any circumstances.

    "The end result is ... that this much damage occurred because proper security measures were not taken," Machimura added.

    Meanwhile, reports of threats and calls for caution surged in Japan Saturday amid the escalating tensions.

    Kyodo News agency reported that an envelope containing white powder was sent to the Chinese Embassy in Tokyo Friday. The contents turned out to be harmless, but police were investigating the incident as harassment related to the tensions.

    Earlier, two other envelopes containing a razor blade and empty shells from a pistol were also discovered at Chinese diplomatic missions, while vandals dabbed red paint on the Chinese ambassador's residence in Tokyo, according to Japanese police and China's official Xinhua News Agency.

    The Chinese Embassy has lodged a protest to the Japanese government over the incidents, Xinhua said Saturday.

    Chinese hackers are suspected of having launched cyber attacks on two Japanese government Web sites this week, and Kyodo reported Saturday that Kumamoto University in southern Japan filed a criminal complaint with police over a similar incident.

    Japan's Foreign Ministry has issued warnings to its citizens in China about possible danger, and Japanese businesses with major operations in China are taking extra precautions.

    The Asahi newspaper reported Saturday that Mazda Motor Corp., Suzuki Motor Corp. and Toshiba Corp. were canceling nonessential China business trips.

    Toray Industries, a manufacturer of synthetic fibers, has warned its China-based employees against going out in company uniforms or handing out name cards, and also instructed them to use only trusted drivers for transport, it said.




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    the chineese govts way of showing US that chineese govt cannot support japan for UNSC. A well planned move.

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    ajaybhutani The protest itself is organised by chinese people.The anger towards japan accumulated for a long time untill erupted recently in chinese society

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    The Chinese people are venting centuries of frustration, not just against Japan, put against the locked up existance. The Government likes the fact the protest is against a foriegn government, thus no tanks rolling do the streets to break it up. Chinese Nationalism is on the move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair
    ajaybhutani The protest itself is organised by chinese people.The anger towards japan accumulated for a long time untill erupted recently in chinese society
    thats exactly what i meant by my post. a well planned move( by chineese govt to organize protests by chineese people against japan).

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    As a chinese, i can affirmatively tell you that this protest is organized by ordinary chinese people,chinese govts did not get involved in this case,they just acquiesce this parade. YOU don't understand how strongly the anger is,because of the historical issue between China and Japan,that's the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaybhutani
    thats exactly what i meant by my post. a well planned move( by chineese govt to organize protests by chineese people against japan).
    japan govt disrespect history.and never apologize for china and other asia country. distort Japan's wartime atrocities in school history textbook .
    so i support a peaceful activity to protest japan govt.

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    frnds i would like to make one thing clear . i m in no way opposing the chineese fighting for the apology they deserve(along with other things.) What i want to bring into notice is merely the fact that it has a lot to do with the recent spurt in possibility of japs getting in the UNSC and Chineese govt is surely arousing the leaders in the form of underground support.. (where protest is i believe not somthing that commond) for without the support of the govt(from inside) planning such activities on such a scale isnt really possible. The govt of china is doing a good job at this as this makes the hands of the govt look bound in the front of the outside world on this issue. The answer for japaneese support for UNSC by thechineese dipomats to say japs or americans will be "sorry sir , chineese people have openly told the whole world that jjaps dont deserve a UNSC".
    I wonder how much an apology from the japs can help.

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    Care to ellaborate about China's attrocities in Tibet, Uyghur and Vietnam.. not to mention '89. After all said and done this is just public posturing, propaganda and farce attempts to mobilize the Chinese people by the ChiCom Govt. This can backfire in a bad way for the communists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srirangan
    Care to ellaborate about China's attrocities in Tibet, Uyghur and Vietnam.. not to mention '89. After all said and done this is just public posturing, propaganda and farce attempts to mobilize the Chinese people by the ChiCom Govt. This can backfire in a bad way for the communists.
    calling china as responsible for certain atrocities will not make japan look like a clean chit.Chineese deserve to oppose the japs. But dsnt mean that china is a good peaceful nation. clearly the point now is " now Chineese govt cannot allow japs get thru at all. bc if it did the commies can fall.Now the copromise is not at all possible unless the japs apologise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastair
    ajaybhutani The protest itself is organised by chinese people.The anger towards japan accumulated for a long time untill erupted recently in chinese society
    you think the public over there can move their finger without getting the nod from the admin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull
    you think the public over there can move their finger without getting the nod from the admin?
    Yup. It means that chinese government cooperates with civilian people for anti-japan. people need the permission and support from government to express their feeling as well as the government make use of the protest for their own purpose.
    So it is not difficult to achieve the consensus in this case on both side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull
    you think the public over there can move their finger without getting the nod from the admin?
    Well, it is after all the People's Republic
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    Protests in China Against Japan

    Though the GDP was nearly half the size of the U.S.'s, its only in the past decade or so that they decided to send thetroops overseas and changed the constitution to allow it to play a greater part in regional security operations.Unlike Japan, China already has nuclear weapons and a seat on the Security Council, the U.N.'s main body for resolving international disputes.

    For most of history, China was dominant, but in the 20th century, Japan was.In the 21st century, the two countries are going to be on equal footing for the first time.

    The trade bteween these two are good china is japansd largets trading partner,
    $206.8 billion, Exports to China were a major reason why the Japanese economy managed to return to growth during the past two years after long sluggishness.
    Japanese foreign direct investment in China was 355.3 billion yen ($3.33 billion at current exchange rates) in 2003 -- third behind its direct investment in the U.S. and the Netherlands.
    The problems lies here:
    ECONOMICAL
    *This could potentially damage the growth in this area and affect the demand for US products.
    *Japaneese wont be able to use china to produce good and sell cheaper elsewhere.
    *Japanese businesses employ a million Chinese -- unemployment could breed instability.
    *Japan may stop their aid to china which is worth $31.27 billion at current exchange rates(past 25 yrs)
    POLITICAL
    *Communist party strives and survives on nationalism,it may back fire if they fail to stand up to Japan.
    *US was using Japan as their power representative this will be seriously challenged.


    And in a move certain to inflame sentiment further, a group of Japanese nationalist lawmakers plans to worship this week at Tokyo's Yasukuni Shrine, which honors Japan's 2.5 million war dead. Because those include executed war criminals, such visits anger Chinese and South Koreans. Yesterday, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman asked the lawmakers to call off the visit and "refrain from doing anything that might harm the feelings of Asian people."

    A big worry would be if serious scuffles with Japan or the U.S. scared away crucial foreign investment. If tensions grow, says Fred Hu, a managing director at Goldman Sachs in Hong Kong and a frequent adviser to Chinese officials on economic policy, "this has the potential to set back all the progress East Asia has made and put the region back in a cold war."
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