Which M4 Replacement would you pick?

[Blue]

why not a 6.8? its has better damage then the 5.56 and a bettter range then the 7.62x39mm. and if you add the gas piston to it you have a investment in technology that puts you ahead of the world. while the russians make they overly comlicated and over priced an-94 we can make a weapons that we can use for many years to come

Cost!.......................Our govt is way too interested in passing a healthcare bill that would kill any extra military spending for years to come.

Same way so many other good ideas got passed by.....

[wellman]

if olny we chould cut funding to all the global warming shit -.-

[toemag]

Cost!.......................Our govt is way too interested in passing a healthcare bill that would kill any extra military spending for years to come.

Same way so many other good ideas got passed by.....

Haven't we done this before, without a poll and worded differently.

Sh!t on a shovel, lets level the playing field, everyone gets AK47's in 7.62x39.

The reasoning being not everyone is capable of sniper type sub MOA groupings at 1000m in a sandstorm at 03:00hrs in the morning after a long week on patrol with only seven hours sleep in as many days. I can't think of a cheaper and more cheerful way to go.

Tony

[wellman]

yea but what about all the other times? im not even in the military but i know i like the m-4/m16 series better then the ak-47. not olny is it a lighter recoil but it dident take me 15 secs to get the dam mag in the gun -.- (some might say "wellman the ak-47 recoil to much for you XD!! but im olny 120 pounds and i dont got much weight to take all that recoil)

[bigross86]

The IDF decided to invent it's own replacement for the M4: The IMI Tavor TAR-21. The Golani and Givati brigades have it, and the Nahal brigade will get it in 2010. It's a bullpup design. It originally had some problems, but it was used "flawlessly" in operation Cast Lead in 2008-2009

[wellman]

im not going to bother with a weapons i cant even use. (im left handed)

[bigross86]

Which is exactly why the IMI Tavor can be altered so the casings will eject from either the left side or the right side, depending on what hand you use. It literally takes a minute and a half.

[toemag]

What do most of those malnourished child soldiers weigh who run around their respective countries butchering each other???

Don't forget they have 40rnd mags and the 75 drum mags for those who can't get their mag changes sorted, practice makes perfect.

There are a lot of things that seem to get people excited, calibre, accuracy, weight, gadget's that can be added to improve the weapons performance that invariable put the original M4/M16 design under so much stress that you end up with a catastrophic failure of one type or another.

Why is it that Soldiers are like kids at Christmas when it comes down to their equipment?

Maybe some one should remind them that they are only tools of their current trade, and tell them to get on with it.

Tony

[bigross86]

A soldier gets so excited about his weaponry for a couple reasons: If he doesn't know every little thing there is to know about it, he'll die. If he doesn't know exactly how to clear a certain jam, Ol' Murphy will show up and jam his rifle in the middle of a fire fight, and then hes SOL.

As a consequence of knowing every little thing there is to know about their weapon, a soldier gets the feeling that his weapon is better than most. It's not just soldiers: Race drivers with their cars, neighbors arguing over who's stereo is better, plumbers debating which wrench is better to use. You see all the soldiers here because this happens to be a forum frequented by many current and ex-military.

For example, I can tell you right now that the tank I used, the Merkava Mk IV is the best damn tank in the world. I don't care what anybody else says, I've been in mine and seen it in action, plus I've spoken to other soldiers using different tanks, and I've been in a couple other tanks myself, and I know mine is the best. One of the main reasons I believe this is cause I know almost everything there is to know about my tank (within reason, of course) and I know I'll pretty much survive anything in mine. Your tank I"m not so sure about...

Besides, everybody enjoys blowing things up, and guns and rifles and all this stuff are just means to an end: Make a bigger boom!

[Officer of Engineers]

*** and then, there are old war horses who has seen things come and go ***

I am going to answer this what is the best yadda yadda in the world once and for all.

What is the best plane/tank/ship/wrench in the world.

The one that is coming to my rescue when I'm being bayonet charged by a 1000 pissed off fire breathing dragons.

What is the worst plane/tank/ship/wrench in the world.

The one that is running away when I'm being bayonet charged by a 1000 pissed off fire breathing dragons.

[junoth1001]

There is an old story in aviation circles that says, the best replacement for DC3, is another DC3.

You could sy the same for the M4

[Triple C]

Sir, what do you mean by fire breathing dragons? Was that how you call the Soviets back then?

[Officer of Engineers]

Generic term for being out-tanked.

[Cowman88]

Yea I do like my M4

[Blue]

Haven't we done this before, without a poll and worded differently.

Yeah, but there was nothing else going on right now.;)

Sh!t on a shovel, lets level the playing field, everyone gets AK47's in 7.62x39.

The reasoning being not everyone is capable of sniper type sub MOA groupings at 1000m in a sandstorm at 03:00hrs in the morning after a long week on patrol with only seven hours sleep in as many days. I can't think of a cheaper and more cheerful way to go.

That what the M-16 was for Tony.......spray and pray!;):))