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  • #16
    Yeah i dont get the whole point about people wanting to see combat. Ive never faced it before and obviously if i join the ADF i know that its something i may have to do if required but its not something i would go around the world looking for. Its not Call of Duty (a computer game for all you oldies :P ) ... you dont respawn when you die and its messy and it f**ks you up. Funny you dont often hear someone who has seen war say they want to revisit the process.
    The best part of repentance is the sin

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    • #17
      Originally posted by chakos View Post
      ...Funny you dont often hear someone who has seen war say they want to revisit the process.
      Chakos,
      As far as the careerist are concerned, it cuts both ways.
      You do often hear someone who has seen war and is still itching to revisit.:)
      sigpicAnd on the sixth day, God created the Field Artillery...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Deltacamelately View Post
        Chakos,
        As far as the careerist are concerned, it cuts both ways.
        You do often hear someone who has seen war and is still itching to revisit.:)
        Depends on the war and the experience of the person. Im sure if you ran a vote on people that would be happy to do it again after WW1 trench warfare as opposed to ex-US servicemen after the first Gulf War its obvious wich group would have had the repeatable experience.
        The best part of repentance is the sin

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        • #19
          I would approach by listing which jobs you want and then seeing which service is going to provide you with the best opportunity to get and live that job.

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          • #20
            Why don't you just join whatever country you belong to and identify yourself with the most

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            • #21
              Originally posted by chakos View Post
              Funny you dont often hear someone who has seen war say they want to revisit the process.
              Er, you do. No-one says "Oh yeah, it's a blast! It's great fun!" but as far as I see it a lot say it's valuable, extraordinary, enriching life experience.
              HD Ready?

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              • #22
                Apply to join the Marines, apply for your citizenship in your first 6 months, and get the hell outta that jail you call Australia ;)

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by 1947 View Post
                  I've been recently thinking of joining the army but cant make up my mind of which one to choose.
                  My manager at my work is an ex-British army warrant officer with 25 years of service under his belt and highly recommends joining the British army.
                  Given the fact that I'm an Australian citizen and hence a commonwealth citizen eligibility won't be an issue. His reasons are the fact that from his point of view having served in the British army and for a short period in the australian army he felt that the australian army were using tactic and procedure from the 70's. I'm no Einstein on military training procedure some input would be greatly appreciated'.
                  cheers
                  This is the training of an Infantry Soldier:

                  There are various ways of entering the infantryJunior EntryIf accepted as a Junior Entry soldier you will complete either the 42-week Army Foundation Course at the Army Foundation College in Harrogate (Job Code INF501) if you are aged between 16 years and 17 years 1 month or the 20-week Army Development Course at the Army Training Regiment in Winchester (Job Code INF501) if you are aged between 16 years 3 months and 17 years 1 month. Both courses are designed to introduce military skills such as teamwork, handling and firing a weapon, how to live and work in the open and how to complete an assault course, as well as developing your stamina and fitness. In addition, AFC Harrogate recruits take part in an education and leadership package which includes adventurous training and sport. The additional education offered at the AFC leads to the award of a Foundation Modern Apprenticeship (FMA), including a NVQ Level 2 in IT. Both courses end with a Passing Out parade in front of parents, relatives and friends.You will then undertake a 13-week Combat Infantryman Course at the Infantry Training Centre in Catterick which ends with a two-week battle camp where everything you have learned is combined and tested.Standard EntryFor Standard Entry recruits aged between 17 years and 33 years 11 months, Infantry basic and trade training are combined in a single Combat Infantryman Course held at Catterick (Job Code INF101). There are three variations of this course:Combat Infantryman’s Course (CIC)Infantrymen complete a 26-week course designed to teach all the skills required to operate as an infanteer on operations anywhere in the world. It is here that you will make the first of many lifelong friends with whom you will serve throughout your career.The Foot Guards recruits complete an extended 28-week course that gives the skills needed to perform in an operational battalion and prepares them for ceremonial duties.Para recruits complete a 28-week course that incorporates P-Company (a two-week assessment of suitability to complete military parachute training). On successful completion, recruits attend a 3.5-week basic military parachute course at RAF Brize Norton. :)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Native View Post
                    I would approach by listing which jobs you want and then seeing which service is going to provide you with the best opportunity to get and live that job.
                    Here are the jobs you can do in the British Army (The RAF and Navy have heaps more):

                    Infantry: (Rifleman, Machine Gunner, Drivers, Communications, IT, Sniper, Mortarman, Physical Training Instructor, Storeman, Technical Storeman, Anti-Tank Missileman, Recce Soldier, Paratrooper, Combat Medic, Assualt Engineer, Regimental Police, Guardsman).

                    Armoured Corps: (MBT Gunner, MBT Driver, MBT Operator, MBT Commander, Recce Gunner, Recce Driver, Recce Commander, Mounted Cavalry, Farrier, Blacksmith, Communications, IT, Physical Training Instructor, Storeman, Technical Storeman, Combat Medic, Regimental Police, Driver).

                    Medical: (Biomedical Scientist, Clinical Physiologist, Combat Medical Technician, Dental Hygienist, Dental Nurse, Dental Officer, Environmental Health Officer, Health Care Assistant, Medical Officer (Doctor), Surgeon, Medical Support Officer, Nursing Officer, Operating Theatre Practioner, Pharmacy Officer, Pharmacy Technician, Physiotherapy Officer, Radiographer, Registered Nurse, Registured Nurse (Adult), Registered Nurse (Mental), Vetenary Officer, Vetinary Technician).

                    Air Corps: (Pilot (Helicopter), Pilot (Fixed Wing), Ground Crew, Air Gunner).

                    Artillery: (Gunner AS90, Gunner High Velocity Missile, Gunner Light Gun, Gunner MLRS, Gunner Observation Post Assistant, Gunner Radar Operator, Gunner Rapier, Gunner Sound Ranging, Gunner Special Observation, Gunner UAV, Driver).

                    Engineering: (Electrician, Vehicle Electrician, Equipment Mechanic, Plant Operator Maintainer, Bricklayer, Building and Structural Finisher, Carpenter and Joiner, Fabricator (Weldder), Construction Materials Technician, Design Draughtsman, Draughtsman (Electrical and Mechanical), Surveyor, Geographic Technician, Armoured Engineer, Resource Specialist, Communications, Heating and Plumbing, Driver, Fitter (AC and Refrigeration), Aircraft Technician, Armourer, Electronics Technician (Electronics and Aviation), Bomb Disposal, Marine Engineer, Metal Smith, Military Engineer (Amphibious), Combat Engineer, Pioneer, Recovery Mechanic, Shipwright, Technical Stores, Vehicle Mechanic).

                    Logistics/Support: (Ammunition Technician, Chef, Driver, Air Dispatcher, Port Operator, Train Driver, Logistics Specialist (Supply), Movement Controller, Petrolium Operator, Postal and Courier Operator, Seaman/Navigator, Technical Support Specialist).

                    Intel/IT and Communications: (Area Systems Operator, Communications Systems Engineer. Communications Systems Operator, Driver Linesman, Driver Communications Specialist, Electronic Warfare Operator, Information Communications Systems Operator, Installation Technician, Intelligence Officer, Linguist, Educate, Operator Military Intelligence, Systems Engineer).

                    HR and Finance: (Chaplain, Clerk, Officer (Legal), Finance).

                    Cerimonial: Foot Guards (Infantry), Mounted Cavalry (Tank Crew), Mounted Gunner (Artillery), Musician).

                    Fair few to choose from. If you choose the Infantry or Armoured Corps, you will then have to choose a Regiment, we recruit from areas of Britain, choose carefully. :))

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                    • #25
                      What C/A says is true , the area where you were born and raised all have great traditions and Regimental ties , i am from the North East , Darlington , and my local Reg,s were the 15/19 hussars , and the Green Howards , i left home at 17 and joined the army in Carlisle , i was sent to Catterick and told to choose a Reg there , i met up with some lads from Liverpool /Burnley /Oldham etc etc a great bunch of scallywags , and decided to join the 1st RTR a Lancashire Regiment which is now recruiting from Scotland But whatever Corp you decide to join think about the future ?? I loved being in/on Tanks , but alas after service ended , i discovered that not many civilian occupations needed tank crewmen , so my advice to you is join the REME or Engineers , and get a trade that is recognised outside of the forces for later on in life ,, you will still reap all the benefits of a soldiers life , but will have a trade ;)

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                      • #26
                        Oh wise words Tankie, but very true. If I were ever given the chance I would join up again tomorrow, and go back on Tanks, just loved them, Big Boys Toys.

                        Can't believe you joined 1 RTR, just loved 15th/19th, had a few buddies in them, and the 'Franky Howards' were a good bunch to. I joined 3 RTR (Armoured Farmers as I came from Cornwall), wonderful bunch of guys, mad as 'Ships Cats' mind.

                        If you want to see front line action and have a Trade, become a Combat Engineer or an Armoured Engineer, or better still Ammunition Technician (Bomb Disposal).

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Chaobam Armour View Post
                          Oh wise words Tankie, but very true. If I were ever given the chance I would join up again tomorrow, and go back on Tanks, just loved them, Big Boys Toys.

                          Can't believe you joined 1 RTR, just loved 15th/19th, had a few buddies in them, and the 'Franky Howards' were a good bunch to. I joined 3 RTR (Armoured Farmers as I came from Cornwall), wonderful bunch of guys, mad as 'Ships Cats' mind.

                          If you want to see front line action and have a Trade, become a Combat Engineer or an Armoured Engineer, or better still Ammunition Technician (Bomb Disposal).
                          And me also ,but in hindsight , get a trade ? and sod bomb disposal

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                          • #28
                            Young man's game

                            Originally posted by tankie View Post
                            And me also ,but in hindsight , get a trade ? and sod bomb disposal
                            Yeah, bomb disposal. Ten years after the fact I was looking at a job in EOD. Kitted up to observe an incident, I realized I had forgotten just how "stressful" it gets (translation: fu(king scary shite) I had to think real hard about that one and in the end I had to pass. Yeah, that too.
                            Reddite igitur quae sunt Caesaris Caesari et quae sunt Dei Deo
                            (Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's and unto God the things which are God's)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by sappersgt View Post
                              Yeah, bomb disposal. Ten years after the fact I was looking at a job in EOD. Kitted up to observe an incident, I realized I had forgotten just how "stressful" it gets (translation: fu(king scary shite) I had to think real hard about that one and in the end I had to pass. Yeah, that too.


                              Those guys have my utmost respect .

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                              • #30
                                They must have something missing to do a job like that, my hats comes off to them though.

                                I remember when I was an 'Assualt Pioneer' for a while, clearing and disarming mines was bad enough.!!!!!!!!

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