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    just read about the f22 going to the paris air show,also new overperformance numbers out on f22 by usaf,radar is 5% more powerful then thought for an extra 5-10 miles of range,smaller radar cross section then thought,size of steel marble-40dbsm, and supercruises at mach 1.72-.75 instead of 1.5,also on a altitude test it was 3.05 seconds quicker then the prescribed 54 seconds,coming along nicely.aviationweek.

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    that's a bad ass plane.. and thank god it's ours (US)

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    • #3
      I haven't heard about this (yet); do you know if they are planning on doing a demo with it? That should wow the crowd . . . .
      "There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge

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      • #4
        Originally posted by biteasaur View Post
        just read about the f22 going to the paris air show,also new overperformance numbers out on f22 by usaf,radar is 5% more powerful then thought for an extra 5-10 miles of range,smaller radar cross section then thought,size of steel marble-40dbsm, and supercruises at mach 1.72-.75 instead of 1.5,also on a altitude test it was 3.05 seconds quicker then the prescribed 54 seconds,coming along nicely.aviationweek.

        And according to some sources/pilot anecdotes, it supercruises even faster than that.


        http://aimpoints.hq.af.mil/display.cfm?id=8529

        And then there is the Raptor's super cruise capability that lets it fly at supersonic speed without using fuel-guzzling afterburners as required by other fighters.

        "That saves us a lot of gas and opens up a whole host of things when you start talking about dropping bombs," Krumm said. "You can imagine if you are 60,000 feet doing mach 1.9 (about 1,400 mph) and these bombs are flying out of your airplane, the swath of hell you can produce going through a country saying 'I'll take that target, and that target'."

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        • #5
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          slickest plane ive ever seen,also they were talking about how in one of the red/blue flags how the f22 was slaughtering all jets sent against it from screaming out of the sky from over 65,000 ft,nothing was able to hang with it or get lockons. the news about paris was quoted by larry lawson executive vice president and general man. of f22 program,had to work through some past problems from when we 1st took f117"s there years ago.but it seems its a go.
          Last edited by biteasaur; 05 Feb 09,, 20:41.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by biteasaur View Post
            just read about the f22 going to the paris air show,also new overperformance numbers out on f22 by usaf,radar is 5% more powerful then thought for an extra 5-10 miles of range,smaller radar cross section then thought,size of steel marble-40dbsm, and supercruises at mach 1.72-.75 instead of 1.5,also on a altitude test it was 3.05 seconds quicker then the prescribed 54 seconds,coming along nicely.aviationweek.
            Aaaaar! Jockeying already for more raptors. Politics is a dirty game im telling you :))

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            • #7
              Originally posted by biteasaur View Post
              slickest plane ive ever seen,also they were talking about how in one of the red/blue flags how the f22 was slaughtering all jets sent against it from screaming out of the sky from over 65,000 ft,nothing was able to hang with it or get lockons. the news about paris was quoted by larry lawson executive vice president and general man. of f22 program,had to work through some past problems from when we 1st took f117"s there years ago.but it seems its a go.
              That has been written about in many places, but I read about it in Combat Aircraft magazine; the Ego drivers were frustrated because, until then, they'd been the "top dogs" at all of the excercises, especially Red Flag. Then the Raptor shows up, and they can't even get a shot off, even when the can SEE the bloody thing through the canopy, because they couldn't ever designate the target.

              AFAIK, only one Raptor has ever been "shot down" at a Red Flag excercise, and that was only because an entire flight of F-16's volleyed their electronic AMRAAM's in the general direction of a Raptor that was busy designating them with it's own radar; however, the Raptor got it's revenge: it had fired all of it's own AIM-120C's before it got destroyed, and "killed" all four of the F-16's.
              "There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge

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              • #8
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                also just found where they tweaked on f-15 engines to produce more power through the years,that the f22 engines have room for more output and i just read it will surpass mach 2.0 in supercruise mode eventually,its close already.

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