Twenty die on Russian submarine

[ozjohn39]

I am amazed that India can even consider 'Russian Quality' military gear.

They must be desperate.

John.

[Pingvinov]

Rest In Peace.

[VarSity]

Whilst respect to the dead is a given, I have a question.

Reports I have read seem to indicate Freon gas was the cause of this tragedy, but what I cant understand is why this is being used on submarines? The stuff is both dangerous and out dated. I happen to work for a company who is involved in fire protection systems (and other things) and we haven’t used Freon in years, it’s simply not needed these days as there are for more efficient yet safe systems these days.

[Andrey Egorov]

Whilst respect to the dead is a given, I have a question.

Reports I have read seem to indicate Freon gas was the cause of this tragedy, but what I cant understand is why this is being used on submarines? The stuff is both dangerous and out dated. I happen to work for a company who is involved in fire protection systems (and other things) and we haven’t used Freon in years, it’s simply not needed these days as there are for more efficient yet safe systems these days.

Yes, russian systems are outdated very often, especially naval ones. And russian chemical industry is outdated as whole

I should add two names, they marked as John Doe in initial list, but were identified just now
Шутов Игорь
Власов Андрей
both were great guys, both were married, both were under 30, Igor's son is one and half year old.
Rest in Peace lads

[VarSity]

Rest in Peace lads

Indeed. This is just such a tragic and pointless loss of life!

[Dreadnought]

Whilst respect to the dead is a given, I have a question.

Reports I have read seem to indicate Freon gas was the cause of this tragedy, but what I cant understand is why this is being used on submarines? The stuff is both dangerous and out dated. I happen to work for a company who is involved in fire protection systems (and other things) and we haven’t used Freon in years, it’s simply not needed these days as there are for more efficient yet safe systems these days.

Freon 112 was probably used for its smothering/air scavaging qualities. Haylon was also used aboard subs so the electronics would not be damaged and had excellent smothering characteristics however it was also found to cause cancer over prolonged exposure.

R.I.P. Gentlemen.

[kuku]

Tragic loss of life.

Unfortunately in hazardous surroundings errors can amplify and cause such tragedy, safety of the workers should always be an important issue, and should be looked after without compromise. And yet i see many industries ignoring these issues.

[BBwarrior]

Rip

[TopHatter]

Rip

[Rookie Snipe]

May you all rest in peace......

[Skywatcher]

Rest in peace.

[Ray]

Very unfortunate.

Tragic loss of life.

May their souls rest in peace.

It also affects India's acquiring the N subs.

Russian submarine mishap to delay India's nuke submarine plans
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/...-sub-plans.htm

[BudW]

I worry about a accidental launch of nukes.

[usplanefan67]

Yes, russian systems are outdated very often, especially naval ones. And russian chemical industry is outdated as whole

I should add two names, they marked as John Doe in initial list, but were identified just now
Шутов Игорь
Власов Андрей
both were great guys, both were married, both were under 30, Igor's son is one and half year old.
Rest in Peace lads

First of all RIP...Very Tragic.

I do agree with you, unfortunatly from what I have read the Russian Navy has been the least funded of the military branches, unfortunatly for the sailors and other personnel having to work on these things, its catching up to them.

[Officer of Engineers]

I worry about a accidental launch of nukes.

Dual release. The military owns the delivery vehicles and State Security owns the nukes.