Originally posted by ColdBlueLight
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Last edited by Parihaka; 13 Apr 06,, 05:42.In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.
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Originally posted by shekLook at the number of posts of both Snipe and the board members who are vouching for him. That should probably clue you in about the fact that we know him pretty well.
Snipe was not making light or fun of genocide.
Originally posted by parihakaI would respectfully suggest you look up the meanings of sarcasm, irony, and "black humour'. It would give you far greater insight into the meaning behind peoples words. :)Last edited by ColdBlueLight; 14 Apr 06,, 05:15.
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Originally posted by ColdBlueLightIt is unacceptable to use irony or black humor in an attempt to excuse's ones inhumane statements about Genocide.
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Originally posted by Officer of EngineersM21 was in combat against the very bastards committing the crimes you speak of.Last edited by ColdBlueLight; 14 Apr 06,, 15:39.
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Originally posted by TrajanRead the news, theres this foreign country called 'Sudan', in this place known as 'Sudan' there is a large mass genocide happening. So...yea, its happening now.
One of the main reasons why there has been such little international help from the international community is because China has stood in the way of American-led efforts to put an end to the ongoing massacre. Since 2004, the United States has pushed for sanctions against the Sudanese government, but China has blocked every attempt because it has billions of dollars in oil investments in Sudan.
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Because it's true and he tells it like it is.
Your read on Sudan already tells me that you know very little of the true nature of the area. The US ain't anymore ready to stop the butchering than China is. Alot of talk and no action, otherwise, an intervention force would have gone in with or without UN approval.
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Originally posted by ColdBlueLightThen one has to wonder why the member would post such an inhumane statement.
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Originally posted by ColdBlueLightIt doesn’t matter how many members vouch for M21Sniper, the member posted statement is still disrespectful.
Then what was the point he was trying to achieve?
It is unacceptable to use irony or black humor in an attempt to excuse's ones inhumane statements about Genocide."Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
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Originally posted by ColdBlueLightThere is nothing humorous or laughable about Genocide.
I'm sure you don't think that most people would make light of genocide right? So why get so wrapped around the sprocket about it?
Snipe is a very smart, usually level headed person, from what I know of him. About 80% of the crap that he says I agree with and so do most on this board. All except for the DAT **** :)
Calm down like 4 notches dude, it will be alright ;)
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And FWIW genocide is population control no matter how mad it makes you. The earths population would be + millions and millions without genocide. Is it right? Of course not, but its true.Last edited by tankervet; 14 Apr 06,, 22:38.
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PUBLICATION: The Toronto Sun
DATE: 2006.04.13
EDITION: Final
SECTION: Editorial/Opinion
PAGE: 22
ILLUSTRATION: photo by Radu Sigheti, Reuters A Sudanese woman carries her baby at a refugee camp in eastern Chad after fleeing Sudan's Darfur region.
BYLINE: LEWIS MACKENZIE in Bosnia in the 1990s.
WORD COUNT: 594
GENERAL AGREEMENT ROMEO DALLAIRE SAID THE 'WHITE MAN' WASN'T THE ANSWER IN DARFUR. HAS HE FLIP-FLOPPED?
It's not often that reading a statement in print takes your breath away, leaving you speechless. When I read the account of Sen. Romeo Dallaire's April 8 interview with CTV News, it happened to me. Discussing the genocide in Darfur, Dallaire opined that what's needed is "not developing countries' troops" but "developed countries' troops, from middle powers like Canada."
Rewind the tape to May 29 last year, when the same newly-minted senator -- then perhaps more inclined to utter the policy of the Liberals who appointed him -- said in response to my call for Western intervention in Darfur: "Anyone who says that the era of the white man going into Africa to sort out their problems is what should still remain is someone who's totally disconnected from the reality of Africa."
Rewind to even earlier times -- prior to his Senate appointment -- and the same Dallaire was outspoken in his call for Western intervention including, ideally, NATO forces.
If the reader is dizzy by now from Dallaire's opinions, it would be understandable. Having apparently turned 360 degrees on the issue of Western intervention in Darfur, at least he is back to where he should have stayed in the first place.
Recent reports that the UN will soon ask Dallaire to review a peacekeeping plan for Darfur are equally shocking. In Rwanda, Dallaire commanded the military component of what became the UN's largest military failure in its history. This was clearly not solely Dallaire's responsibility; however, by his own admission, his lack of previous experience with the UN severely handicapped him in convincing senior officials to pay attention to the disaster unfolding around him as 800,000 Rwandans were slaughtered.
Prior to his appointment to the Senate, Dallaire argued that the West should not stand idly by as thousands were slain in the Darfur region of Sudan by proxies of their own country's government. He was joined in this plea by virtually every compassionate person who was aware of the genocide.
The five permanent members of the UN Security Council -- in keeping with their habit of refusing to deal with internal conflicts, no matter how tragic, that might negatively affect the self-interests of one or more of their members -- sat on their hands and did nothing, for years.
But upon his elevation to the Senate and appointment to a committee to review the situation in Darfur, Dallaire declared that the UN-authorized African Union (AU) peacekeeping force was up to the task. What was not noted was the fact that the African Union force's mandate only authorized it to use deadly force to defend itself, not the Darfurians.
In an appalling statement, the senator and his committee colleagues recently opined that the slaughter of Darfurians was declining. In one month this year, the number of killings appears to have dropped by 5,000 -- it's difficult to obtain accurate figures on genocide. Did the committee fail to recognize that perhaps the numbers were down because after years of genocide there were fewer Darfurians left to murder?
So now, following years of indecision, the UN has a plan which a former commander of its largest peacekeeping failure will review. Unfortunately, the UN's record is abysmal.
The answer to Darfur's disaster and Khartoum's intransigence is for the Security Council to subcontract the rescue mission to NATO. Subcontracting to a U.S.-led force worked in Somalia (the mission failed when the UN took it over in mid-1993), it worked when Australia was asked to take the lead in East Timor in 1999 and it could work in Darfur.
As for the Khartoum government which would resist such a mission, tough. It's time for the UN-endorsed Canadian concept of "responsibility to protect" to move from theory to practice.
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Originally posted by ColdBlueLightIt is unacceptable to use irony or black humor in an attempt to excuse's ones inhumane statements about Genocide.No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack
I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry
even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry
He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry
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Originally posted by ColdBlueLightThen one has to wonder why the member would post such an inhumane statement.In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.
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