The Indian and Chinese are investing much money in their armies. But can they compete with armies of the UK, Germany, US and Russia when it comes down to power projection? With countries has the best power projection and how long will it take for China and India to become an major international player?
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Power projection capability is probably directly proportional to the number of foreign bases a country has, aircraft carrier groups and maybe even nuke subs with SLBMs
US(don't think allies like Germany and UK need to be mentioned seperately) is a dumb shoo-in as the major player in all 3 categories. Russia currently has limited projection capabilities..
China,India too have limited projection capabilities.. China for the subs they have and India for the blue-water navy and it is on its way to getting 3 AC carriers for the navy..India interestingly has an increased presence in central asia with an airbase in Ayni,Tajikistan plus the possibility of having limited number of troops in Afghanistan(Karzai seems to keep reqeusting troops frm India)..China doesn't seem to have any overseas military presence yet
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Originally posted by Mercenary View PostIndia interestingly has an increased presence in central asia with an airbase in Ayni,Tajikistan plus the possibility of having limited number of troops in Afghanistan(Karzai seems to keep reqeusting troops frm India)..China doesn't seem to have any overseas military presence yet
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Originally posted by Mercenary View PostPower projection capability is probably directly proportional to the number of foreign bases a country has, aircraft carrier groups and maybe even nuke subs with SLBMs
US(don't think allies like Germany and UK need to be mentioned seperately) is a dumb shoo-in as the major player in all 3 categories. Russia currently has limited projection capabilities..
China,India too have limited projection capabilities.. China for the subs they have and India for the blue-water navy and it is on its way to getting 3 AC carriers for the navy..India interestingly has an increased presence in central asia with an airbase in Ayni,Tajikistan plus the possibility of having limited number of troops in Afghanistan(Karzai seems to keep reqeusting troops frm India)..China doesn't seem to have any overseas military presence yet
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostOne single USN CVBG got more power projection than any other group of countries can hope to muster.Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure.
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostOne single USN CVBG got more power projection than any other group of countries can hope to muster.
Aren\'t they called Carrier Strike Groups (CSG) now , and I completely agree that 1 USN Carrier group has more power projection than any other country can put together.
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Originally posted by yeung3939 View PostOf course, China and India both can't project much power to let's say Middle East.
But China can probably project more power to Taiwan than a US Carrier group.
If the scales were as comprehensively tilted as you insist..then the PLA armed forces would already be in Taiwan. you seem to underestimate the power of a US carrier group by quite a bit... and Japan isn't that far from Taiwan..there are US forces based in Japan too..
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Originally posted by Mercenary View PostIf the scales were as comprehensively tilted as you insist..then the PLA armed forces would already be in Taiwan. you seem to underestimate the power of a US carrier group by quite a bit... and Japan isn't that far from Taiwan..there are US forces based in Japan too..
How many fighter/strike jets does a single carrier group have? 48?
China surely has a much larger number of planes with air-dominance/strike capability. Those old planes can still help to project power.
There are also ballistic missiles, MLRS, navy ships.
If you are talking about the ability to send troops onto the Island, China also has an edge over a single carrier group.
China doesn't have enough power projection capability to take Taiwan doesn't mean its power projection capabilit is weaker than a single carrier group.
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Originally posted by yeung3939 View PostAren't we talking about power projection?
How many fighter/strike jets does a single carrier group have? 48?
China surely has a much larger number of planes with air-dominance/strike capability. Those old planes can still help to project power.
Also, to win this fight, the USN just have to sink the invasion force ... extremely easy.
Originally posted by yeung3939 View PostThere are also ballistic missiles, MLRS, navy ships.
Originally posted by yeung3939 View PostIf you are talking about the ability to send troops onto the Island, China also has an edge over a single carrier group.
Originally posted by yeung3939 View PostChina doesn't have enough power projection capability to take Taiwan doesn't mean its power projection capabilit is weaker than a single carrier group.
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a fight out in the Taiwan Straits is one in which China will losesigpic
Win nervously lose tragically - Reds C C
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