Oh boy. Uhhh. How many and what type of air defense systems were in supposed to be in a late Cold War Soviet tank division.
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FM 100-2-3: The Soviet Army- Troops, Organization & Equipment 1991 would be the most up to date resource. Somebody wants money for it now and I refuse for an army cast by the wayside of history.
I'd say a crapload of ZSU 23-4s, a ridiculous number of ZSU 57-2s, uncountable amounts of SA-7s (STRELA), 14s (GREMLIN), 16s (GIMLET) etc., fantastic amounts of other big fast missiles like the SA-6 (GAINFUL) and loads of guys with ZPU-1s 14.5mm and those funny looking DShKM 12.7mm HMGs.
Yup. That more or less covers types and numbers nicely, eh?:))"This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs
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Originally posted by S-2 View PostFM 100-2-3: The Soviet Army- Troops, Organization & Equipment 1991 would be the most up to date resource. Somebody wants money for it now and I refuse for an army cast by the wayside of history.
I'd say a crapload of ZSU 23-4s, a ridiculous number of ZSU 57-2s, uncountable amounts of SA-7s (STRELA), 14s (GREMLIN), 16s (GIMLET) etc., fantastic amounts of other big fast missiles like the SA-6 (GAINFUL) and loads of guys with ZPU-1s 14.5mm and those funny looking DShKM 12.7mm HMGs.
Yup. That more or less covers types and numbers nicely, eh?:))
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Originally posted by Feanor View PostOh boy. Uhhh. How many and what type of air defense systems were in supposed to be in a late Cold War Soviet tank division.Originally posted by S-2FM 100-2-3: The Soviet Army- Troops, Organization & Equipment 1991 would be the most up to date resource. Somebody wants money for it now and I refuse for an army cast by the wayside of history.
I'd say a crapload of ZSU 23-4s, a ridiculous number of ZSU 57-2s, uncountable amounts of SA-7s (STRELA), 14s (GREMLIN), 16s (GIMLET) etc., fantastic amounts of other big fast missiles like the SA-6 (GAINFUL) and loads of guys with ZPU-1s 14.5mm and those funny looking DShKM 12.7mm HMGs.
Yup. That more or less covers types and numbers nicely, eh?
Pg 4-112 Tank Div has 1 SAM (SA-6) Regt.
However it may have a SAM Regt with SA-8s or a AAA Regt equipped with S-60 AA guns.
The SA-6 Regt would have A total of 20 SA-6 TELs and 21 SA-7/SA-14 launchers
The SA-8 Regt substitutes 20 SA-8 launchers for the SA-6 ones
The S-60 Regt would have 24 57mm S-60s and 15 SA-7/SA-14 or SA-16 launchers.
The total numbers (assuming a SA-6 Regt) are
SA-6 =20
SA-9=16
SA-7=93
SPAA=16
So Feanor how close did the US get to actual numbers?
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Originally posted by Gun Grape View PostHey, I've resembled that remark before.
I thought you went to Arty school long ago. Should have been a cake walk
And while I did graduate FAOBC....it was by correspondence!!!“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain
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Gun Grape Reply
G.G.,
See if the organization for combat of a GUARDS motor rifle regiment equipped with BMPs includes any regimental A.A.A./SAMs. I'm sure that Shilkas and such will be there. Do the same for a Guards tank regiment of a TANK division (numbers differ, IIRC between size if MRD or T.D). Multiply by three tank regiments and toss them in with the divisional crap and that'll be that.
Get your next question ready.;)"This aggression will not stand, man!" Jeff Lebowski
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." Lester Bangs
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Originally posted by zraver View PostSticking with big bad Soviet armor..
I am the biggest most powerful armored vehicle deployed by the Soviet Union in WW2.
Hint#1 I am not part of the Animal killers family of assault guns.
Hint #2 I did see combat
Hint #3 I am not a piece of captured equipment."There is never enough time to do or say all the things that we would wish. The thing is to try to do as much as you can in the time that you have. Remember Scrooge, time is short, and suddenly, you're not there any more." -Ghost of Christmas Present, Scrooge
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