The INA had commanders. They were just wearing Japanese insignias. Hitesh, you're assuming the Japanese were going to let the INA have free reign.
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What I am saying is that the Japanese has no choice but to give the INA free reign in order to achieve their strategic objectives. They need India as an ally and INA won't stand around and let Japanese order them around. There's a myth that INA was following Japanese orders. That is not the case at all. Yes they did work with Japanese soldiers and officers but INA retained their own command structure and Bose was the head of the INA. If Japanese wanted something, they had to go through Bose.
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Originally posted by Blademaster View PostI don't believe it would be that easy. You are giving Indians way too far less credit. Don't be such a narcissist.
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Originally posted by Blademaster View PostWhat I am saying is that the Japanese has no choice but to give the INA free reign in order to achieve their strategic objectives. They need India as an ally and INA won't stand around and let Japanese order them around. There's a myth that INA was following Japanese orders. That is not the case at all. Yes they did work with Japanese soldiers and officers but INA retained their own command structure and Bose was the head of the INA. If Japanese wanted something, they had to go through Bose.
Indians planned actions with Japanese Generals?
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If Slim was to be assasinated, would things turn out to be different? By the way, the reason why PLA did not press their momentum was because they had exhausted their logistic chains and were sitting ducks if they continue to remain there.
By the way, do remember that the British officers were far more ruthless in 1857 and yet they nearly lost India to a disorganized bunch of groups led by senior NCOs and inept Indian leaders. We would only require 4 more regiments breaking away and it would be the end of the British presence. In the 1940s, INA was not like the disorganized bunch of soldiers. It had competent officers and leaders.Last edited by Blademaster; 11 Dec 07,, 20:51.
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Slim assassinated?
What kind of variables are we looking at over here?
And I dont consider fighting Brit Army of 'those days' as the same as Pakistan and that too with 70,000 men. Kiyani who led a Division only had 10 years of military experience and very very low on resources. INA did a splendid job with what they had, but they didnt have it in them to fight off set-peice battle's.
And those Great Indian Generals, became great through time; not in ten years.Last edited by Adux; 11 Dec 07,, 21:13.
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Originally posted by Officer of Engineers View PostIt took 1962 to wake the InA up and the Chinese did you a favour by not pushing their momentum. Slim would not be so charitable.
PLA couldnt push forward anymore!! I dont want to be a person who offers excuses, a defeat is a defeat but we hadnt put our resources and strength including the IAF into battle, for political stupidity of Kesva Menon and Nehru.
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Originally posted by Blademaster View PostIf Slim was to be assasinated, would things turn out to be different?
Originally posted by Blademaster View PostBy the way, the reason why PLA did not press their momentum was because they had exhausted their logistic chains and were sitting ducks if they continue to remain there.
With respects to Slim in this case, the point was that Slim would not let a chance to destroy his enemy slip away.
Originally posted by Blademaster View PostBy the way, do remember that the British officers were far more ruthless in 1857 and yet they nearly lost India to a disorganized bunch of groups led by senior NCOs and inept Indian leaders. We would only require 4 more regiments breaking away and it would be the end of the British presence. In the 1940s, INA was not like the disorganized bunch of soldiers. It had competent officers and leaders.
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Originally posted by Adux View PostSlim assassinated?
What kind of variables are we looking at over here?
And I dont consider fighting Brit Army in 'those days' as the same as Pakistan and that too with 70,000 thousand men. Kiyani who led a Division only had 10 years of military experience and very very low on resources. INA did a splendid job with what they had, but they didnt have it in them to fight off set-peice battle's.
And those Great Indian Generals, became great through time; not in ten years.
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Originally posted by Blademaster View PostRemember, the majority of the British Indian Army is 90% Indian. Now if we were to take snipers and shoot the majority of British officers, Slim if still alive would be running the army with such a paranoi and fear of the army turning against him that it would render the army practically useless like paralysis.
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Originally posted by Blademaster View PostIf Slim was to be assasinated, would things turn out to be different? By the way, the reason why PLA did not press their momentum was because they had exhausted their logistic chains and were sitting ducks if they continue to remain there.
The Chinese army's reasons for not pressing forward with further invasion of Indian territory has nothing to do with the fact that it proved fortuitous for Indian Army HQ. If anything it shows how markedly deficient Indian army higher leadership was in operational art compared to their counterparts in China.
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