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    What do you mean the bees are dying!

    Has anyone else heard about the honey bees dying out across the planet? Colony Collapse Disorder can seriously mess you up when seventy percent of the plants around you kind of need insect pollination to survive. That would mean you'd only have food from wind blown pollination and heavily cut into feed stocks for animals.

    In the US they had a sudden collapse in the honey bee populations over the last two years, with beekeepers losing most of their hives in a very short period of time. Big fruit farmers require bee keepers to supply their hives to get the crop yields we currently enjoy. When a bee keeper with thousands of hives went to the government about what the hell was going on, after a while, the alarm bells went off. To be honest this is a lot more holy crap scary than any global warming scenario, because the ability to eat food is kind of important to our future survival.

    Apparently CCD is happening all over the world. Europe, Asia, South America, and North America are all victim to it. In England, beekeepers say that they are experiencing CCD, but the government denies it. The blame has been levied by many at new pesticides that mess up the nervous systems of bees to the point they can't navigate anymore. Scouts for pollen go out but they never come back. Experts are saying that it might be a series of conditions all working in concert with the pesticides. It's been suggested that using hives of bees on single source pollens of fruit crops results in deficiencies. The causes result in the bees being extremely more susceptible to disease and the hive dying off. In China, in a region known for fruit, they now have to hand pollinate all the fruit because they went nutty with the pesticides and killed off all the bees. It's apparently a bit of a painstaking operation to pollinate plants by hand, but it's that or no fruit.
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    And who said we need WWIII to wipe us off the planet?

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    never mind, we've still got plenty (although the little buggers have got an infestation of the varoa mite courtesy of out erstwhile Aussie cousins) so we'll just sell you some.
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    I know Australia and New Zealand are currently doing a brisk business selling honey bees to the rest of the World. Some people are even trying to blame the Aussie bees on CCD, but it doesn't add up. Especially since all the diseases that kill the bees are present in hives that are unaffected by Colony Collapse Disorder. Something or a combination of somethings is weakening their immune systems.
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    Wait, wait, wait. I know. Lets blame it on the war in Iraq. It's all America's fault. Stupid Bush. )

    On a more serious note, what scale of bee deaths are we talking about here. Extinction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor View Post
    Wait, wait, wait. I know. Lets blame it on the war in Iraq. It's all America's fault. Stupid Bush. )

    On a more serious note, what scale of bee deaths are we talking about here. Extinction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanor View Post
    On a more serious note, what scale of bee deaths are we talking about here. Extinction?
    Us or the honey bees?


    Bee Colony Collapse Disorder - Where is it Heading? » Celsias

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    Unfortunately, the first guy to publish anything about the cause was a whackjob in Germany who claimed it was due to cell phones, but he has fortunately since been discredited.
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    It is certainly a worrying turn of affairs. I wouldn't be too surprised to learn the Agro-Chemical industry is deeply involved in this. We simply do not know the full results of how long the various chemicals remain active, especially in combination with other chemical brews applied later.
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    Relax, those African killer bees coming up from South America aren't so inbred. Just a lot harder to rob honey from.

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    evolution never stoped, species that can,t adopt die out, new species will replace them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggot View Post
    I know Australia and New Zealand are currently doing a brisk business selling honey bees to the rest of the World. Some people are even trying to blame the Aussie bees on CCD, but it doesn't add up. Especially since all the diseases that kill the bees are present in hives that are unaffected by Colony Collapse Disorder. Something or a combination of somethings is weakening their immune systems.
    While I'm tempted to blame the Aussies , it has to be climate or environment specific. We use the same pesticides and more that you guys do.
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    Must be global warming...
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    it might be radio waves, cell phone signals, bees hate it,
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    We have radios and cellphones in the antipodes as well
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    I read somewhere that Honey Bee populations may drop because of over harvesting. I guess that the honey industry is putting alot of pressure on colonies, and that all that stress may cause the honey population to drop..

    not to sure though...but Google knows all!

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