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  • Can a dog mauling be murder?

    By Maura Dolan
    Times Staff Writer

    April 16, 2007

    SAN FRANCISCO — Did Marjorie Knoller know that walking her dogs without choke chains or muzzles could mean someone would die?

    The answer to that question, now before the California Supreme Court, will decide whether Knoller is returned to prison for the murder of Diane Whipple, 33, who was mauled to death six years ago by Knoller's two Presa Canarios in the hallway of her Pacific Heights apartment.

    The infamous attack and subsequent trial consumed this city and sparked a nationwide debate over killer dogs.

    Now the case may lead to a new standard in California for determining when an unintentional killing can be murder. At issue is the state of mind of someone whose dangerous act triggers a death: How much advance awareness must that person have of the risks?

    The courts have already ruled that drunk drivers involved in fatal accidents can be culpable for murder; a change in the law could mean more murder cases against people who unintentionally kill by starting fires, causing industrial accidents, shooting guns in celebration or neglecting children.

    Attorney Dennis P. Riordan, who represents Knoller, believes that for the crime to have been murder, Knoller would have had to know: " 'If I go out of this apartment, there is a real chance somebody is going to die.' That has to be a conscious thought in her head."

    State Deputy Atty. Gen. Amy E. Haddix contends that dozens of aggressive acts by the dogs made Knoller aware that they could be deadly and satisfied the requirements for what is called an "implied malice" murder — when the killer has no intent to kill but acts with a conscious disregard of life and the knowledge that his conduct endangers people.

    "If you anticipate that level of danger to human life, it doesn't matter that you might hope you could intervene," Haddix said.

    "The risk is great enough that you are on the hook for the worst possible result."

    Knoller, 51, a lawyer, was convicted of second-degree murder, but the judge threw out that conviction. Before overturning the jury's murder verdict, San Francisco Superior Court Judge James Warren pondered whether Knoller "subjectively knew on Jan. [26, 2001] that her conduct was such that a human being was likely to die."

    Turning to Knoller in the courtroom, Warren said: "There was one time on the stand, Ms. Knoller, when I truly believed what you said. You broke down in the middle of a totally scripted answer and you actually, instead of crying, you actually got mad and you said you had no idea that this dog could do what he did and pounded the table. I believed you."

    She left prison in 2004 after serving 33 months for involuntary manslaughter and is said to be living with family in Florida.

    Her husband, Robert Noel, 65, also a lawyer, was not present during the attack but served time for his role in maintaining the dogs. He is believed to be residing in Solano County, about an hour's drive from San Francisco.

    An appeals court reinstated Knoller's murder conviction, and she appealed to the high court. Depending on what it decides — a ruling is expected any day — Knoller could be returned to prison for 15 years to life. Given the difficulty of winning parole in California, Knoller could die in prison.

    On the afternoon of Whipple's death, Knoller said that she had taken Bane, her 140-pound male Presa, to the roof of the apartment building and was returning to her apartment when the dog noticed Whipple.

    Carrying groceries and reportedly terrified of Knoller's dogs — one had bitten her the month before — the college lacrosse coach was at her apartment door when the dog charged. Hera, Knoller's female Presa, slipped out Knoller's open door and followed suit.

    Summoned by a neighbor peering out from a peephole, police arrived to find Whipple covered with bites from head to toe, her clothes shredded and her neck torn apart. Blood soaked the hallway carpet and streaked the walls. Pieces of Whipple's clothing and groceries littered the floor.

    An officer later testified that Whipple was on her stomach in the hallway, trying to crawl to her apartment. The officer told her to remain still, that an ambulance was on the way, and Whipple seemed to relax. But her breathing and pulse stopped as paramedics arrived.

    A court document described the attack as "typical of a predatory animal that mauls the neck of its prey to cut off the air supply."

    Fatal dog attacks in the United States are rare. Only about two dozen people are mauled to death each year in a nation with 70 million dogs, said Karen Delise, founder of the National Canine Research Council, which tracks and investigates fatal dog attacks.



    Pit bulls and Rottweilers most often top the list of killers, according to various studies, but killer canines have included a Yorkshire terrier, a dachshund, a Labrador retriever, a cocker spaniel and a collie.

    Besides Knoller, only two people in the United States have been convicted of murder for killings by dogs.

    One was a man who ordered a pit bull to attack his girlfriend. Fewer than half of all fatal dog attacks are even prosecuted, according to Randall Lockwood, an expert in the epidemiology of dog attacks.

    But Whipple's death incensed San Franciscans, in part because of comments by Knoller and her husband suggesting that Whipple might have been responsible for her demise. Knoller reported that Whipple dallied and gave the dog time to kill, while Noel noted that she might have exuded a pheromone fragrance that crazed the animal.

    During the couple's trial, moved to Los Angeles after the judge decided that the defendants could not get a fair hearing in San Francisco, the prosecution tried to show Knoller acted "in conscious disregard" of her dogs' killing nature.

    Knoller and Noel acquired the dogs as a favor to a prison inmate, Paul "Cornfed" Schneider, whom they had met in the course of their legal work and later adopted, even though he was an adult.

    Schneider was trying to run a business from prison, breeding and selling Presas as guard dogs. He was unhappy with the care Bane and Hera were getting from a woman who was raising them on her farm near Hayfork in Trinity County.

    Schneider was particularly displeased to learn that Bane had become friendly with cats and urged the caretaker not to make "wusses" of the dogs. Hera was not a "wuss." She had escaped several times and killed a cat, a sheep, chickens and other animals, according to court records.

    Even before Knoller took possession of the dogs, a veterinarian who examined them told her he would be "professionally amiss" if he did not alert her to their menace.

    Dr. Donald Martin, who vaccinated the dogs before their transport to San Francisco, wrote Knoller that the dogs were "huge," with "no training or discipline of any sort." They would be "a liability in any household, reminding me of an attack in Tehama County to a boy by large dogs. He lost his arm and disfigured his face."

    "The historic romance of the warrior dog, the personal guard dog, the gaming dog and so on may sound good but hardly fits into life today."

    Trouble began soon after Hera arrived on April 31, 2000. In June, she bit a man on his rear end in the building lobby, according to later testimony.

    In September, after Bane arrived, one of the dogs lunged, teeth bared, at the abdomen of a pregnant woman, another witness testified.

    Noel also had to be hospitalized after Bane bit his hand in a dogfight. A piece of literature in the couple's apartment said that police used Presas to disable pit bulls.

    Knoller testified that she had tried her best to save Whipple, even getting between her and the dogs.

    There was no evidence at trial that either dog had killed before, that any dog of the Presa Canario breed had ever killed a person or that a dog of any breed had killed while being walked by its owner, Riordan said.

    Although it is rare, dogs have killed while on leash or in the presence of an owner, Delise, the researcher on dog attacks, said in an interview. One dog even snatched a baby from a woman's arms.

    But the prosecution's expert testified he had never heard of such a killing. The presence of an owner was usually enough to deter an attack, he said.

    "Knoller had no conceivable motive to decide to take her dog for a walk knowing and not caring that someone was likely to die by the time she returned to her apartment to cook dinner," Riordan said.
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    Dog owners, and owners of any pet, need to be held responsible for their pets. No matter if it is a Presa Canario, a Parakeet or a Siamese cat. Animals are still animals and the nicest, sweetest of pets can have bad days and bite. They all have the potential to cause harm and owners need to be responsible for that...part of being a pet owner.
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  • #2
    Agreed and agreed. If you know your starewell is falling apart, but you don't fix it, and then someone comes to over and the stairs collapse on them, it's your falt, why should this be different?
    "you have enemies, good. That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life"

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    • #3
      I also agree.
      More so as the dogs had a previous record of aggressive behaviour, especially the one time before when the victim had been bitten by the dogs.
      When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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      • #4
        I completely agree, we need a law to hold these people responsible for their dogs.
        Those who can't change become extinct.

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        • #5
          I disagree.

          If I agree, then this would be the first time in the history of WAB when everyone is in total agreement. That has never happened before. We can't break tradition.
          "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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          • #6
            But by disagreeing you agree with the tradition of not everyone agreeing...

            ...you lose.
            "you have enemies, good. That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by speedlover1994 View Post
              But by disagreeing you agree with the tradition of not everyone agreeing...

              ...you lose.
              Catch 22!
              When we blindly adopt a religion, a political system, a literary dogma, we become automatons. We cease to grow. - Anais Nin

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              • #8
                If the owner deliberately orders the dog(s) to attack, the charge should be murder. If the dogs attack on their own, the charge should be manslaughter. Either way the owner should be responsible for the dogs actions unless the dogs were acting in the owners defence.
                Removing a single turd from the cesspool doesn't make any difference.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by speedlover1994 View Post
                  But by disagreeing you agree with the tradition of not everyone agreeing...

                  ...you lose.
                  "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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                  • #10
                    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLL

                    Hehe. Nice Smiley too!
                    "you have enemies, good. That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life"

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