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  • #46
    Originally posted by dalem View Post
    And you couldn't stay away from the BDS for even a moment, could ya? ;)

    -dale

    Hey,What is this BDS?

    In our part of the world that stands for Bomb Disposal Squad!


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

    I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

    HAKUNA MATATA

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Ray View Post
      Hey,What is this BDS?

      In our part of the world that stands for Bomb Disposal Squad!
      LOL !

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ray View Post
        Hey,What is this BDS?

        In our part of the world that stands for Bomb Disposal Squad!
        Bush Derangement Syndrome. You're clearly in the beginning stages. Sad really.

        -dale

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        • #49
          I just spent a few moments searching for an old post, and going through old posts in the 'US Politics' forum, and as much as I like you, Ray, I've got to agree with dalem: you are not and have not been for many months now the least bit objective re: George W. Bush. You hate him; you evidently believe the same things that unreasonable and deluded Americans believe about him. The old knocks on his intelligence, courage, character, and policies are all Democratic Party talking points, and worse, reflections of the sillier notions of the lefty whackos that Dubya's very being provokes to near-hysteria.

          I'll point it out as I see examples in your posts if you'd like, and I can describe how you've either gotten (and believed) misinformation, or why it is you've misinterpreted what you're seeing.

          But this is the truth: you aren't seeing the other side; you're reading and drawing conclusions from sources that fit what you think you know. It's warping your objectivity.

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          • #50
            The democrat's have no trouble subverting the public.

            [QUOTE=Ray;362357]
            Originally posted by brokensickle View Post

            I am talking of the President hitting the TV and acting as Billy Graham and not what the media did or did not do or what the US politicians did or did not do.

            If the Europeans were lock step with Clinton, it does speak of the US leadership unlike today, where everyone is abandoning or have already abandoned Iraq and even on Iran!

            The US President's capability is to be a world leader since it is the sole global superpower. Now, compare the fact that Clinton could get the Europeans to be in lock step and what Bush is doing! Even Bush's bosom family friend, the so called Royalty of Saudi Arabia has condemned the US in no certain terms for the War in Iraq being illegal or words to that effect.

            Therefore, Bush has not only been abandoned by his friends in Europe over Iraq but also by his only Arab chum and a family friend! Leadership, indeed!



            I totally endorse this view.



            International affairs is not based on such whimsical reasons.

            Threaten the USA? And the USA wilted? If my country was as powerful as the US, I would have laughed right into the face of Iraq and tell them to take a run jump into the nearest waterhole! No superpower wilts with empty threats. If it were a threat from Russia or China, maybe one could have thought about it but still I would not have been worried!




            What makes you feel that what you say is what the majority of Americans feel?

            This forum is a Republican oriented forum and so such sentiments do not get debated and is highly partisan. It does not mean that it represents America. In fact, it doesn't if one goes by the last election results.

            So, with due regards to your views for what they are worth, I decline to buy it.



            This again is indicative that you are not following international affair, but frying your own fish.

            The success of not only the US, but also of Bush is of paramount importance to my country. India has gained maximum in the Bush tenure than any other US President! But that does not make me a brainless dolt to accept everything that the US or Bush does.

            I speak out my mind out of frustration since your views represent those who are leading the US and sadly, it is highly myopic and flawed if one is to lead the comity of nation.

            It is not Us vs Them.

            It is "Jump onto my bandwagon because I care for you"!

            Less of beating the war drums and more of diplomacy.


            As an example, note how Xerxes is surviving in a hostile environment! ;) Hats off to him since I could have never been able to carry it off like him! Nations could also learn.



            When your constitution and sovereignty is at stake you call an ace an ace and a spade a spade. I do not look to the international community to improve the sovereignty of my country. We have a wonderful constitution and government system in its pure form. It's been bastardize by the socialist movement. The socialist movement create problems and subverts justice to gain power and not everybody takes that to concern for a number of reasons.
            Increasing the social entitlements is the big opiate the destroyers of our constitution employ as it's an easy bait for the lazy lower nature of humanity.
            This increases a need for the socialist structure and gives the socialist the appearance of charity. But who funds the charity of the socialist is the ever burdened citizen. Anybody that disagrees with the socialist point of view is then pigeon-holed as selfish and self serving. It's an easy sale to tell people we will help you, in order to subvert them. Besides, as the government grows in size and scope it cost more and more to run. Why is a employee of a government system necessarily more virtuous and honest than those they govern? The answer is they are not necessarily more virtuous. This is why America's original form of governance is to be limited in scope and balanced between state and federal.

            I don't want America to become like Iran so I feel lucky enough to survive its OPPRESSIVE STRUCTURE as Xerxes. I wish for my children the same freedoms that American's have enjoyed for two+ centuries. In your Eastern culture there is a long history of the tradition of self abasement and self mutilation as if is some kind of honor. I tend to think that is a waste of time as life has enough challenges of its own. If you like self torture and suffering as a life style more power to you. This is not what I want for my children and grand children. Please keep that in the East. Then I can come visit to see how it's done but don't wish to participate.

            I don' hand out God's blessing to buy your vote. I mean Adonia Bless you in earnest. I'm not easily insulted but telling me that my prayers for you are to get you on my bandwagon is a bit presumptuous. Would you rather me wish you hellfire? I think not.

            If it is not sometimes us verses them then no civilization has ever experienced an over throw. Do you understand me? The truth is that sometimes it is us verses them. Your catch phrases are not always appropriate as reality has a play in situations as well.

            Ivan

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            • #51
              Let the shadow presidency begin!! I wonder how long befor the Dems try to pull a Ceasar on G.W. Bush! Even the Washington post, a very open critic of Bush slammed Pelosi, that should speak volumes.
              Facts to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.

              -- Larry Elder

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              • #52
                Can't she be impeached or censured or something?

                -dale

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                • #53
                  whoa parihaka,

                  you sure cut a swath!
                  There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

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                  • #54
                    That was a busy 67 minutes! Dang! I missed it, I was walking the dog.
                    Last edited by sappersgt; 06 Apr 07,, 03:33.
                    Reddite igitur quae sunt Caesaris Caesari et quae sunt Dei Deo
                    (Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's and unto God the things which are God's)

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Ray View Post
                      That's international affairs?
                      About as much as "Bush's pantomime was a daily affair on TV" is.

                      And what's your thing with Billy Graham, anyway?
                      The more I think about it, ol' Billy was right.
                      Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight.
                      - The Eagles

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by astralis View Post
                        whoa parihaka,

                        you sure cut a swath!
                        LOL...it would have been easier just to lock it.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Julie View Post
                          LOL...it would have been easier just to lock it.
                          More Democratic suppression of speech? ;)

                          -dale

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                          • #58
                            C'mon, guys, leave Pelosi alone!

                            She's spending alot of time and energy butting into something that's absolutely none of her business, making flowery speeches, vowing to change things, and getting nothing done.

                            She's being a Liberal.

                            What did you expect from her?

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by YellowFever View Post
                              C'mon, guys, leave Pelosi alone!

                              She's spending alot of time and energy butting into something that's absolutely none of her business, making flowery speeches, vowing to change things, and getting nothing done.

                              She's being a Liberal.

                              What did you expect from her?
                              Oh, that's gonna leave a mark.

                              -dale

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by YellowFever View Post
                                C'mon, guys, leave Pelosi alone!

                                She's spending alot of time and energy butting into something that's absolutely none of her business, making flowery speeches, vowing to change things, and getting nothing done.

                                She's being a Liberal.

                                What did you expect from her?
                                My bad!! sorry bout that.....
                                Facts to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.

                                -- Larry Elder

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