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    What Needs To Be Done To Make Pakistan A Haven Of, peace and security?

    This was a general question in "The News" (one of the leading newspapers of Pakistan) and people were asked to write in and respond with their views ...


    hundreds of people responded ...


    I want you all to take a few minutes and read their replies ....


    just so that you can see who the overwhelming majority blame for all the problems of Pakistan ...


    here you go ...


    http://www.jang-group.com/thenews/vf/index.html

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    Addendum;

    for those who may not know


    Maulvi = Mullah

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    Interesting, and a very good idea from jang.

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    Wait guys - is this really representative of the "overwhelming majority" ? or is this

    "Islam is the only way to get peace and security everywhere in the world not only in Pakistan. The word like moderation in Islam is only a run away from the truth. Islam is a complete formulation of life in all respect, one have no right to introduce any improvement or alteration in this system.

    In Quran, you can find out the complete system with references to get rid of all problems present in our national system. See what is going to happen with Balochistan, also with Karachi and with other groups too. Let's try to implement system as it is. Instead of blaming Mullas or religious parties go ahead and show your courage for the implementation.

    Al-Qaeda and all other parties introduced by Americans is nothing but their trick to put Muslims under pressure. And persons like Pervez Musharraf are no doubt agents for them.

    Most of the top management including that of army is dictated to Americans. Please make a system, which nullify this situation for good. This is the only path to get peace and security in Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarek
    Wait guys - is this really representative of the "overwhelming majority" ? or is this

    "Islam is the only way to get peace and security everywhere in the world not only in Pakistan. The word like moderation in Islam is only a run away from the truth. Islam is a complete formulation of life in all respect, one have no right to introduce any improvement or alteration in this system.

    In Quran, you can find out the complete system with references to get rid of all problems present in our national system. See what is going to happen with Balochistan, also with Karachi and with other groups too. Let's try to implement system as it is. Instead of blaming Mullas or religious parties go ahead and show your courage for the implementation.

    Al-Qaeda and all other parties introduced by Americans is nothing but their trick to put Muslims under pressure. And persons like Pervez Musharraf are no doubt agents for them.

    Most of the top management including that of army is dictated to Americans. Please make a system, which nullify this situation for good. This is the only path to get peace and security in Pakistan.

    Zafar Kamal
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    tarek ...

    all you have to do is do the counting ....

    you tell me ...

    how many counts add up to the above ... ???

    answer;

    a very small minority ...

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    or is this representative and "authoritative":

    86pc Pakistanis support Musharraf: survey

    ISLAMABAD: President Gen Pervez Musharraf has the support of 86 per cent population of the country to carry out his policies.

    According to a poll conducted by PEW Research Institute of Washington, 86 per cent people in Pakistan are with President Musharraf. The Institute has a reputation to conduct survey at global level.

    The results of the survey about the popularity of President Musharraf also conducted in nine other countries, showed that the Pakistani leader has also support of the people of these countries.

    The survey indicated that a vast majority of Pakistanis, about 86 per cent, rates President Pervez Musharraf favourably. The report by the Washington-based Pew Research Centre also says that 60 per cent Pakistanis view President Musharraf "very favourably."

    This is "by far the highest rating of any leader in the survey," says poll Director Andrew Kohut.

    "Pakistanis expressed highly favourable opinions of their president." The Pew Research Centre is a non-profit and non-governmental organization, which specializes in opinion surveys. Its reports are widely respected in Washington’s academic circles.

    The researchers surveyed public opinions in nine countries, asking a randomly selected group of people questions on various subjects ranging from the war in Iraq to their opinion about their own leaders and about other major US allies in the war on terror. Views of President Musharraf were more positive than negative in Turkey and were about evenly divided in Britain, the United States, Russia, and Jordan
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    A month or two ago, some german statistics company said the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asim Aquil
    A month or two ago, some german statistics company said the same thing.
    Now chill guys.Musharaff is going to stay until somebody overthrows him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chandragupta
    Now chill guys.Musharaff is going to stay until somebody overthrows him.
    Or until Uncle Sam see's fit!

    But on a serious note: The collective majority proves, that people in Pakistan do understand the problems faced by Pakistan and hopefully this message will filter through the the Future Leaders "Children and Youth" who will hopefully "Inshallah" lead or country into a new era of prosperity and democracy.

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    Amen to that Hawk-eye!

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    The picture is complicated and it does not make sense, or rather it is difficult to justify the notion that a majority in Pakistan are uninfluenced by radical Islam... well, here, you decide:



    86% Pakistanis favour Musharraf

    * US survey shows mistrust of America in Europe ever higher, Muslim anger persists

    ISLAMABAD: Eighty six percent Pakistanis support President Pervez Musharraf’s policies, according to an independent US global survey, which found a majority in Muslim countries to justify suicide attacks on the US and Western assets.

    A Year After Iraq War, the survey conducted by the Washington-based Pew Research Center, Pakistanis expressed highly favourable opinions of their president; 86% rate him favourably and 60% view him very favourably, by far the highest rating of any leader in the survey.

    Views on Musharraf are more positive than negative in Turkey, and are about evenly divided in Britain, the US, Russia, and Jordan. Negative opinion of Musharraf is strongest in France, Germany, and Morocco. In the predominantly Muslim countries surveyed, anger toward the US remains pervasive, although the level of hatred has eased somewhat and support for the war on terrorism has inched up.

    Osama Bin Laden, however, is viewed favourably by large percentages in Pakistan (65%), Jordan (55%) and Morocco (45%). Even in Turkey, where Bin Laden is highly unpopular, as many as 31% say that suicide attacks against Americans and other Westerners in Iraq are justifiable. Majorities in all four Muslim nations surveyed doubt the sincerity of the war on terrorism. Instead, most say it is an effort to control Middle East oil and to dominate the world.

    UN Secretary General Kofi Annan is well regarded in most of the nations surveyed, with majorities expressing a favourable opinion of Annan in France (79%), Germany (74%), Great Britain (65%), and Russia (53%). Opinion is more positive than negative in the US (42% favourable to 23% unfavourable), Turkey (43% to 36%), and Pakistan (29% to 21%), though many have no opinion about the UN leader in these nations. But these favourable reviews are not universal. Majorities rate the UN leader unfavourably in both Jordan (54%) and Morocco (78%).

    About half of Pakistanis also say suicide attacks on Americans in Iraq – and against Israelis in the Palestinian conflict – are justifiable. The survey finds, however, that Christians get much lower ratings in predominantly Muslim countries than do Muslims in mostly Christian countries. Majorities in Morocco (73%), Pakistan (62%) and Turkey (52%) express negative views of Christians. APP

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    this is why the gvernment has to work more on this ...

    also ... you must bring into account the high degree of illiteracy and poverty ... both are factors which skew the picture for those who view the world through those two prisms ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by visioninthedark
    this is why the gvernment has to work more on this ...

    also ... you must bring into account the high degree of illiteracy and poverty ... both are factors which skew the picture for those who view the world through those two prisms ...
    Aggreed!

    In a recent seminar i attended at the Preston Institute's Islamabad Campus, the focus was E-Governance in Pakistan. Arranged By Dr Basit the chancellor of Preston Institiue, and the panel was made up of several experts and dignitary's.

    One of the most important points i picked up from that seminar was the statement made by an American Consultant working with the Pakistan Governement (Dr.Prof) P.W.Walpart, who said that among the most important issues pakistan must tackle before we can spread the use of E-Governance into the rural communities, and far beyond, is basic education and computer litracy.

    But one thing i belive is that for education to be sucessful we also need to have welfare for the average underprivlaged family, because the major reason we have illetrate children and adults is that they start work at a very young age to support their family. So if we can provide basic shelter, food and welfare to these communities, their children will be free to goto school.

    Schooling is schooling, dosent matter if its urdu or english medium, its the person that counts. Afterall i know a lot of people who studied in some of the finest academy's and schools our country has to offer, yet i dont see their names carved on a wall.

    So basic education and good teachers are required, people who can help mould young minds to seek and expolre. Instead of lie depressed and concerned about where the next loaf of bread is going to come from.

    We need to spread education outwards of the Larger cities, and then bring the combined talent inwards. A good policy always looks the the bigger picture. And thats what we need.
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    It is a haven of peace and tanquillity. That is what I am led to believe. So, what's the big deal?


    "Some have learnt many Tricks of sly Evasion, Instead of Truth they use Equivocation, And eke it out with mental Reservation, Which is to good Men an Abomination."

    I don't have to attend every argument I'm invited to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray
    It is a haven of peace and tanquillity. That is what I am led to believe. So, what's the big deal?
    Self Assesment and slef-improvement is somthing all should strive for. True we are very peaceful, despite what many say. Afterall its not like i have helicopters hovering above my roof or gun fire in the middle fo the night.

    But we do have our fair share of problems, all that need to be addressed, assesed, analysed and managed.

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