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  • #16
    So the IJN just waited and waited for the opportune moment and never seized it when it came around?
    Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

    Abusing Yellow is meant to be a labor of love, not something you sell to the highest bidder.

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    • #17
      Sniper is confusing two battles, Savo Island-1942 and Leyte Gulf-1944.

      Sorry Ross, go do your homework for this, I'm not recounting history when others have prepared it better than I.

      Savo Island: http://www.ww2pacific.com/savo.html
      Leyte Gulf: http://www.battleship.org/html/Artic...ory/Leyte).htm

      In short the Japanese never pressed home an advantage after Midway. At Savo Island they wiped out the US (and one Aussie) blocking force that were protecting the marines supply ships, but withdrew without getting the supply ships.

      At Leyte Gulf they decoyed Admiral Halsey away from from protecting the landing area. The story and victory at Leyte Gulf is romantic because it was the last battleship confrontation in the world. But the heros and victors were the destroyers and small escort carriers that made the IJN think they were fighting a fleet.
      Pa'am Tzanhan, Tamid Tzanhan.

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      • #18
        "Sniper is confusing two battles, Savo Island-1942 and Leyte Gulf-1944."

        Yup. Whoops.

        More of a student of the ETO in WWII. My appologies.

        Still, Halsey's actions at LEYTE(lol), were nearly responsible for the loss of the entire USMC landing force.

        All the IJN would have had to do was press home thier attack. We had nothing in the vicinity to stop them.

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        • #19
          Halsey also wasn't fully aware of the extent that the IJN Carrier Air Wings had been crippled. the IJN Carriers were still considered a very serious threat. That most of the Carrier capable pilots were attrited during the Solomons campaign and that the Japanese training programs weren't upto the same calibre as the US equivelants wasn't known, for certain. Also all of Halsey's available intel said that Kurita's force was retiring, and the southern force had been obliterated by the 'Pearl Harbor' Battlewagons.

          Personally I would have left a task force of three of the Iowa Battleships (Halsey himself was on one of them and therefore it had to go), any others BB's in the area a screening force. And Halsey actually planned for this, until he was informed that Kurtia had retired, and then he saw no need. His intell from the pilots alos indicated that the Musashi was far more wounded than was actually the case. Remember Snipe Hindsite is 20/20 I would have left a TF behind but thats only because I'm very paraniod, given the same intel Halsey had I would have raced after the IJN carriers with my Carrier TFs also.


          Incase anyone is wondering I did stay half ass on topic :D
          Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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          • #20
            I would have left a task force behind because i wouldn't leave my men naked....but hey, that's just me.

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            • #21
              That makes sense, but if you were presented with the chance to destroy some enemy ships that are harmless now but could be pretty nasty later on, what would you do?
              Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

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              • #22
                Thats the point BR they weren't known at the time to be harmless...

                Snipe Like I said my preference would have been to leave behind a BB screen as well and likely a Fleet Carrier section, probly Enterprise and Saratoga(i Believe they were tasked together). But I would have been just as eager to wipe out the *** Carriers.
                Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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                • #23
                  How many times have the Japs attacked the USS Enterprise and proclaimed her sunk? I heard she was the IJN's most hated enemy ship.
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                  • #24
                    She (Enterprise CV-6) was the only Pac Fleet carrier active at the begining of the war to still be afloat at the end. Sara (CV-3) had her engines gutted at the begining(and thus not in commision in the PAc Fleet) and Ranger(CV-4) never left the Atlantic. Lex(CV-2), Yorktown(CV-5), Wasp(CV-7), and Hornet(CV-8) were all sunk before the end of 1942 . Langley was already converted to a seaplane tender. Intrepid was another ship that the IJN supposedly hated because she wouldn't 'sink' for good.
                    Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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                    • #25
                      Are you talking about the USS Intrepid in NY Harbor? I love that ship. I visit there just about every single time I go to NY.
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                      • #26
                        Yep. though she looked a bit different back in WWII... no hurricane bow or angled flight deck for instance.
                        Your look more lost than a bastard child on fathers day.

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                        • #27
                          Poor Langley met her end off of Java. Sad fate for the USN's first carrier.

                          There's a Coast Guard Cutter, USS Taney, in Baltimore Harbor that was decommissioned in 1986. Taney was at Pearl Harbor on 12/7/1941, and saw action in both theaters of operations, Korea, Vietnam and Caribbean drug interdiction.

                          The other fun place to visit is "Battleship Cove" between RI and MA on I-95.
                          Pa'am Tzanhan, Tamid Tzanhan.

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                          • #28
                            One of the (somewhat stupid) reasons the Japanese didn't commit superbattleships Yamato and Musashi to the Guadalcanal battles was a desire to keep their existence (the fact that they were so huge) a secret until that "decisive battle" that some of the guys mentioned earlier.

                            Another foolish mistake was making first Yamato and then Musashi the flagship of the Combined Fleet, essentially a comfortable hotel for a lot of admirals who should have parked their arses on a shore base like Truk and took the flagship muzzles off of the battleships.

                            This however is all just hindsight and ran counter to Japanese culture
                            “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                            • #29
                              just curious .... When did the existance of Yamato and Musashi became known to the Americans?

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                              • #30
                                A Marine named "Mitch'.

                                After reading all the replies, I decided to give you all a different viewpoint.
                                I doubt any of you have had a chance to read this story about Mitch Paige, a Marine that was part of the group that wrested Guadalcanal from the Japanese.
                                Men like him is the reason the battle was won!

                                Subject: DISPATCHES #975: A Marine Named Mitch - It is with great regret I note the passing of a Marine legend this weekend.
                                Colonel Mitchell Paige, USMC (Ret) passed away early yesterday morning November 15, 2003.
                                One of the first things I remember my father telling me about Guadalcanal was how men like Colonel Paige secured Henderson Field so that the air element at Guadalcanal could come aboard. I was privileged to have had Colonel Paige on this distribution for the past three years. His wife passed the following note...

                                Dear Friends:
                                My beloved husband, sweetheart, friend and hero passed away in my arms at
                                3:50 am this morning, November 15, 2003, of congestive heart failure. His long struggle with his heart is over and he is joyfully with the Lord where there is more peace and love than this earth knows.
                                Your friend, Marilyn Paige

                                Services tentatively are to he held at Riverside National Cemetery in Southern California on 24 November Monday. The date & time are not secured ... please check with their internet link. Riverside Cemetery, 22495 Van Buren Blvd. Riverside, CA 92518 / (909) 653-8417 Riverside National Cemetery - Riverside County, California

                                Epilogue: sent 26 October 2003
                                Guadalcanal: 26 October 1942 (Sixty-one Years ago today.)

                                Sergeant Mitch Paige and his machine gun platoon (36 Marines) were the only force standing between a Japanese Regiment and their plan to shove the First Marine Division from a fragile beachhead back into the sea. This 1500 man enemy regiment attacked all night. By the next morning Sergeant Paige was the only Leatherneck not killed or wounded. Nine Hundred and twenty enemy causalities were in front of his seven water cooled-thirty caliber machine guns. It had been one horrific night filled with hand to hand combat. The remaining attackers fled at sunrise back down the hill to their regimental command post as they were chased and shot by Sergeant Paige.

                                President Roosevelt awarded the Medal of Honor to Mitch and a battlefield promotion to Lieutenant. This critical action in America's first offensive pacific campaign of the war was a turning point. Our Marines went on to victory throughout the South Pacific.

                                Mitch always a humble man when recently asked by Colonel Bates and Major Prentice about his World War II action, he simply states, "I was just doing the job I was trained to do."

                                Today's Mitch Paige has the same humility, the same candor and the same love of America he has always had. Our country and Marines, past, present, and future, are lucky to have - - a Marine named Mitch.

                                Last August 31, Mitch Paige turned 85 and is still fighting a battle against heart disease in Southern California.

                                This is a special year to remember Colonel Mitch and his charming wife Marilyn.
                                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                                Lest we forget....from the book “A Marine Named Mitch” by Colonel Mitchell Paige U.S.M.C. (Retired)

                                About 0200, in a silence so pervasive that men many yards apart could hear each other breathing, I began to sense movement all along the front and deep in the jungle below us and to our left. We could hear the ****led clanking of equipment and periodically, voices hissing in Japanese. These were undoubtedly squad leaders giving their instructions. At the same time, small colored lights began flicking on and off throughout the jungle. I could hear Price whispering for me to come to his foxhole. I quietly crawled over to him and he had an excellent view of someone flicking a light on and off.
                                Price said, 'I thought I was cracking up seeing all those fireflies.' I assured him he was not cracking up because those were lights handled by Japanese soldiers. As I crawled around telling the men to glue their eyes and ears to anything and reminded them that the small lights we were seeing were assembly signals for the enemy squads, I again instructed everyone not to fire their guns as the muzzle flash would give away our positions and that we would be raked with fire and smothered with grenades. We had to let them get closer as we were outnumbered, but when things started popping I urged each man to just hang on.

                                Earlier Jonjock, Swanek and I stretched a piece of wire out in front of our position and hung several empty blackened ration cans on it. We put an empty cartridge case in each can which would rattle if hit by someone's foot. I had previously requested an artillery and mortar concentration. This was, however, denied because the enemy was still in the jungle where the effect would almost be nil. I then returned to my foxhole.
                                Manning my number two gun was Corporal Raymond 'Big Stoop' Gaston and Private Samuel 'Muscles' Leiphart.

                                Their gun was at the part of our line which bordered on the side where the jungle came up to meet the ridge. They both whispered to me that there was considerable rustling very near to the undergrowth. I said, 'Hold your fire.' Corporal Richard 'Moose' Stanberry arranged several grenades in a neat row in front of him, then nervously rearranged them. He was fond of his Thompson sub-machine gun and I never worried about him as he was well-trained, a perfectly disciplined marine who could handle himself in any situation. Now everyone was straining to hear and see.

                                The bushes rustled and the maddening voices continued their soft sibilant mutterings, but still nothing could be seen. Then I dimly sensed a dark figure lurking near Gaston's position. I grabbed a grenade, pulled the pin and held the lever ready to throw it. Around me I could hear the others also pulling pins as we did the night before. We heard the ration cans rattle and then somebody let out a shriek and instantaneously the battle erupted.
                                Grenades were exploding all over the ridge nose.
                                Japanese rifles and machine guns fired blindly in the night and the first wave of enemy troops swarmed into our positions from the jungle flanking Gaston's gun. Stansberry was pulling the pins out of his grenades with his teeth and lobbing them down the slope into the jungle. Leiphart was skying them overhead like a baseball pitcher. The tension burst like a balloon and many men found themselves cursing, growling, screaming like banshees. The Japanese were yelling Banzai! and 'Blood for the Emperor!' Stansberry, in a spontaneous tribute to President Roosevelt's wife, shouted back, 'Blood for Eleanor!' The battleground was lit by flashes of machine-gun fire, pierced by the arching red patterns of tracer bullets, shaken by the blast of shells laid down no more than 30 yards in front of the ridge by Captain Louis Ditta's
                                60mm mortars. It was a confusing maelstrom, with dark shapes crawling across the ground or swirling in clumped knots; struggling men falling on each other with bayonets, swords and violent oaths. After the first volley of American grenades exploded the wave of Japanese crowding onto the knoll thickened. Pfc. Charles H. Lock was killed from a burst of enemy machine-gun fire.

                                I screamed, 'Fire machine guns! Fire!' and with that all the machine guns opened up with all the rifles and tommy guns. In the flickering light, I saw a fierce struggle taking place for the number two gun.
                                Several Japanese soldiers were racing toward Leiphart, who was kneeling, apparently already hit. I managed to shoot two of them while the third lowered his bayonet and lunged. Leiphart was the smallest man in the platoon, weighing barely 125 pounds. The Japanese soldier ran him through, the force of the thrust lifting him high in the air. I took careful aim and shot Leiphart's killer.

                                Gaston was flat on his back, scrambling away from a Japanese officer who was hacking at him with a two-handed Samurai sword and grunting with the exertion. Gaston tried desperately to block the Samurai sword with a Springfield he had picked up off the ground, apparently Leiphart's. One of his legs was badly cut from the blows. The rifle soon splintered. The Japanese officer raised his sword for the killing thrust and Gaston, with maniac strength, snaked his good leg up and caught his man under the chin with his boon docker, a violent blow that broke the Japanese's' neck.

                                The attackers ran past Gaston's gun and spread out, concentrating their fire on the left flank gun, manned by Corporal John Grant, Pfc. Sam H. Scott and Willis A. Hinson. Within minutes, Scott was killed and Hinson was wounded in the head. Then Joseph A. Pawlowski was killed.
                                Stansberry, who had been near me, was hit in the shoulder, but the last time I saw him he was still firing his tommy gun with ferocity and shouting, 'Charge!
                                Charge! Blood for Eleanor!' Corporal Pettyjohn on the right, cried out in anguish, 'My gun's jammed!' I was too busy to answer his call for help. At the center, we were beating back the seemingly endless wall of Japanese coming up the gentle slope at the front of the position. There were at that point approximately seventy-five enemy soldiers crashing through the platoon, most of them on the left flank, but the main force of the attack had already begun to ebb.
                                The ridge was crowded with fighting men it seemed.

                                Somehow I vividly recall putting up my left hand just as an enemy soldier lunged at me with a fixed bayonet. He must have been off balance as the point of the bayonet hit between my little finger and the ring finger, enough to let me parry it off, and as he went by me he dropped dead on the ground. The enemy started to melt back down the slope, and almost before they were out of sight, Navy Corpsmen began moving forward to treat the wounded. At Petty john's gun, James 'Knobby' McNabb and Mitchel F. 'Pat' Swanek were badly wounded and had to be moved off the line. Stansberry was still around and didn't want to leave. I crawled over to Pettyjohn's gun.

                                'What's wrong with it?' Pettyjohn said 'a ruptured cartridge which refused to budge'.

                                I said, 'Move over,' and fumbled with stiff fingers, broke a nail completely off, but somehow pried the slug out with a combination tool, which I found in the spare parts kit under the tripod. I also changed the belt feed pawl, which had been damaged in the rough slamming trying to get the round out.
                                Pettyjohn and Faust covered me.

                                Though the first assault had flopped, a number of enemy soldiers had shinnied to the top of the tall hardwood trees growing up from the jungle between the platoon and Fox Company's position. From this vantage point, they could direct a punishing, plunging fire down in two directions. The men in the foxholes along the crest were especially vulnerable; Bob G. Jonjock and John W. Price were wounded and helped back of the line by corpsmen.

                                I was getting ready to feed a new belt of ammunition into Pettyjohn's gun.
                                My left hand felt very slippery so I rubbed it in the dirt under the tripod of the gun, then as I reached up to hold the belt again, I felt a sharp vibration and a jab of hot pain in my hand. I fell back momentarily and flapped my arm and stared angrily at the gun, which had been wrecked by a burst of fire from a Japanese Nambu light machine gun.

                                Almost immediately, a second assault wave came washing over our positions.
                                This attack was more successful than the first. Oliver Hinkley and William R. Dudley were wounded. Hinson, over on the left gun and already wounded, continued to fire until all his supporting rifles were silenced. He then withdrew down around the hill in the rear of George Company, putting the gun out of action before he left as I had instructed.

                                That section had been hit hard with mortars and grenades, causing severe shock to all the men; one of the first being August P.
                                Marquez. All the men on the spur had been literally blasted off, including Lieutenant Phillips, Bill Payne and John Grant.

                                In the Fox Company area back toward my left rear, I saw Fox Company men pulling out and disappearing over the crest. I picked up a Springfield and fired a shot at them, yelling for them to hold the line.

                                The Japanese swarmed up that seventy-foot cliff in great numbers, armed with three heavy and six light machine guns, a number of tommy guns and several knee mortars. I thought, "Dear God, Major Conoley and his small command post are just over the crest," but here was the only grazing fire I had with my machine gun, so I quickly found Gaston's gun and swung it around toward our own lines as there was nothing between my gun and the crest but enemy soldiers.

                                I fired a full belt of ammunition into the backs of those crouching enemy, praying that they could not get over the crest to the command post. I learned later from Captain Farrell, who was with Colonel Hanneken's command post, that the word was that the enemy had one of Paige's fast firing machine guns and the rounds were ricocheting over the line over Major Conoley's position. He had also heard reports that all my men had been killed and in fact, some had seen me sprawled out dead on the ground before they left the ridge. I learned later, too, that this information had gotten back to the Division Command Post.

                                By 0500 the enemy was all over the spur and it appeared they were going to roll up-the entire battalion front. A second prong of the attack aimed at our front had not fared as well, but my platoon was being decimated. A hail of shrapnel killed Daniel R. Cashman. Stansberry had been pulled back over the hill after being hit again.

                                I continued to trigger bursts until the barrel began to steam. In front of me was a large pile of dead bodies. I ran around the ridge from gun to gun trying to keep them firing, but at each emplacement I found only dead bodies. I knew then I must be all alone.

                                As I ran back and forth, I bumped into enemy soldiers who were seemingly dashing about aimlessly in the dark. Apparently they weren't yet aware they had almost complete possession of the knoll. As I scampered around the knoll, I fired someone's Springfield that I happened to pick up. Then somehow, I stumbled over into the right flank into George Company. There I found a couple of men I knew named Kelly and Totman.
                                They had a water-cooled machine gun. I told them I needed their gun. At the same time, I grabbed it and they took off with me.

                                I said, 'Follow me!' and ordered several riflemen to fix bayonets and to follow us to form a skirmish line back across the ridge. I told the riflemen not to be afraid to use the bayonet. We still had the 5 1905, 16-inch bayonets with the front end sharpened throughout its length and the back edge five inches from the point.

                                It was by then not quite as dark as it had been. Soon dawn would break. I knew that once the Japanese realized how much progress they had made, a third wave of attackers would come up the slope to solidify their hold on the hill. On the way back I noticed some movement of Japanese on the ridge just above Major Conoley's position, which I had raked with grazing fire earlier. I fired Kelly's and Totman's full belt of 250 rounds into that area and once again the rounds were ricocheting over Conoley's head, but he had no way of knowing that I was doing the firing. He could only surmise that the enemy was now using our machine guns.

                                As we advanced back across the ridge, some of the Japanese began falling back. Several of them, however, began crawling awkwardly across the knoll with their rifles cradled in the crooks of their arms.
                                Then I saw with horror that they were headed toward one of my guns, which was now out in the open and unmanned.

                                Galvanized by the threat, I ran for the gun. From the gully area, several Japanese guns spotted me and swiveled to rake me with enfilading fire. The snipers in the trees also tried to bring me down with grenades, and mortars burst all around me as I ran to that gun. One of the crawling enemy soldiers saw me coming and he jumped up to race me to the prize.
                                I got there first and jumped into a hole behind the gun. The enemy soldier, less than 25 yards away, dropped to the ground and started to open up on me. I turned the gun on the enemy and immediately realized it was not loaded. I quickly scooped up a partially loaded belt lying on the ground and with fumbling fingers, started to load it. Suddenly a very strange feeling came over me. I tried desperately to reach forward to pull the bolt handle back to load the gun, but I felt as though I was in a vise. Even so, I was completely relaxed and felt as though I was sitting peacefully in a park. I could feel a warm sensation between my chin and my Adam's apple. Then all of a sudden I fell forward over the gun, loaded the gun, and swung it at the enemy gunner, the precise moment he had fired his full thirty-round magazine at me and stopped firing.

                                For days later I thought about the mystery and somehow I knew that the 'Man Above' also knew what had happened. I never wanted to relate this experience to anyone, as I did not want to ever have anyone question it.

                                I found three more belts of ammunition and quickly fired them in the trees and all along the ridge. I sprayed the terrain with the remaining rounds clearing everything in sight. All the Japanese fire in the area was being aimed at me apparently, as this was the only automatic weapon firing from a forward position. The barrage, concentrated on the ridge nose, made me feel as if the whole Japanese Army was firing at me.

                                I was getting some help from our mortars control led by Battalion with the George Company Commander, Captain L.W. Martin, observing. These rounds laid on the spur and prevented the enemy from moving up which would have probably enveloped me from the rear. Other than this, I was still alone as my George Company friends were still behind me some distance.

                                In addition to being in this position, I had an immediate need of more ammunition and I couldn't see anymore lying around anywhere. Just at that time, aid came that made me glow with pride. Three men of my platoon voluntarily crossed the field of fire to resupply me.

                                The first one came up and just as he reached me he fell with a bullet in the stomach. Another one then rushed in and was hit in the groin just as he reached me too. He fell against me, knocking me away from the gun. Seconds later, Bob Jonjock, who had also been wounded earlier, came from somewhere with more ammunition. Just as he jumped down beside me to help load the gun, I saw a piece of flesh fly off his neck. He had been hit by an enemy bullet.

                                I told him to get back while I sprayed the area. He refused to leave. I said, 'Get the hell back, Jonjock!' and he again said, 'No, I'm staying with you.' I hated to do it, but I punched him on the chin hard enough to bowl him over and convinced him finally that I wanted my order obeyed. He somehow made his way back as I was afraid he would bleed to death.

                                Meanwhile, Major Conoley, at the forward command post, was rounding up a ragtag force with which to retake the Fox Company spur.
                                There were bandsmen serving as stretcher bearers, wiremen, runners, cooks, even mess boys, who had brought some hot food up to the front lines during the night and stayed just in case. Those men, numbering no more than twenty-four, mounted a counterattack up over the crest line that I fired some 500 rounds. They found the Japanese machine guns and several of Fox Company's weapons, including three light machine guns, all in good working order. That counterattack found ninety-eight dead on the spur by actual count.

                                That was about 0530 or so. Dawn was already breaking. I was able to observe the progress of that charge from my position as I was directly out in their front. I also watched quite a few enemy soldiers scrambling back into the jungle, but I couldn't fire in that direction. As I watched that beautiful charge, it gave me the inspiration to get up and yell to my George Company fighters with their fixed bayonets to stand by to charge. I yelled out in Japanese to stand up: 'Tate! -- tah- teh, tah-teh!', hurry: 'Isoge!' -- ee-soh-geh, ee-soh-geh!' Immediately a large group of Japanese soldiers, about thirty in all, popped up into view. One of them looked quizzically at me through field glasses. I triggered a long burst and they just peeled off like grass under a mowing machine.

                                At that point, I turned around to tell my friends I was going to charge over the knoll and I said, 'I want everyone of you to be right behind me,' and they were. I threw the two remaining belts of ammunition that my men had brought me over my shoulder, unclamped the heavy machine gun from the tripod and cradled it in my arms. I really didn't notice the weight which was about a total of eighty pounds, and was no more aware that the water jacket of the gun was red hot.

                                I fed one of the belts into the gun and started forward, down the slope, scrambling to keep my feet, spraying a raking fire all about me. There were still a number of live enemy soldiers on the hillside in the tall grass, pressed against the slope. I must have taken them by surprise, as the gun cut them all down. One of them I noticed, was a field grade officer who had just expended the rounds in his revolver and was reaching for his two-handed sword. He was no more than four or five feet from me when I ran into him head on.

                                The skirmishers followed me over the rim of the knoll and they, too, were all fired up and were giving the rebel yell, shrieking and cat-calling like little boys imitating marines, sounding like there were a thousand rather than a mere handful.

                                They followed me all the way across the draw with fixed bayonets, to the end of the jungle, where long hours before, the Japanese attacks had started.
                                There we found nothing left to shoot at. The battle was over.

                                The jungle was once again so still, that if it weren't for the evidence of dead bodies, the agony and torment of the previous hours, the bursting terror of the artillery and mortars rounds and the many thousands of rounds of ammunition fired, it might only have been a bad dream of awful death.
                                It was a really strange sort of quietness. As I sat down soaked with perspiration and steam still rising from my hot gun, Captain Louis Ditta, another wonderful officer who had joined the riflemen in the skirmish line and had earlier been firing his 60mm mortars to help me, slapped me on the back and as he handed me his canteen of water he kept saying, 'tremendous, tremendous!' He then looked down at his legs. We could see blood coming through his dungarees. He had a neat bullet hole in his right leg.

                                There were hundreds of enemy dead in the grass, on the ridge, in the draw, and in the edge of the jungle. We dragged as many as we could into the jungle, out of the sun. We buried many and even blasted some of the ridge over them to prevent the smell that only a dead body can expel in heat. A corpsman sent by Capt. Ditta smeared my whole left arm with a tube of salve of some kind. He cleaned off the bayonet gash, since filled with dirt, and the bullet nicks on my hands also filled with dirt and coagulated blood.
                                He stuck a patch on my back just below the shoulder blade.
                                (In 1955, I felt something irritating in my back, and then had a piece of metal about 3/4 of an inch long removed from my back; right where the corpsman had placed that patch.) As the corpsman left he said, 'You know, you have some pretty neat creases in your steel helmet.' I replied:

                                "Yes, thank God -- Made in America."
                                And so we lose another special member of the Greatest Generation.
                                Hamp
                                USS LCI (L) & (G) 450
                                WW ll Gator Navy

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