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Knights. Much better armor. Better weapons. Probably similar level of training.
And they both used firearms in same time period.
What's been unsaid is that both the knights and the samurai were clobbered by the Mongols. If you want to point to a superior military machine, it's the Mongol horseman.
Actually, that would be my answer from now on. Mongol. At least it shut up this argument.
Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 31 Jul 16, at 02:32.
they killed the heavies (knights) and beheaded the king. a statement not missed by anyone
Mohi came after.
2 days later.
Hardly the news arrived by the time it started, given it was in today's Hungary.
The scale of the battle was larger... 10x more men was at Mohi.
Last edited by Doktor; 31 Jul 16, at 13:47.
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European knights were being whacked long before this. The Mongols invaded and conquered Russia.
2 days in contemp terms seems trivial - but even then messages went from the battlefield to home in months. tactically they were light years ahead of anyone else - it was a paradigmm shift. and Legnica was always meant to distract and bleed enemy forces so that the battle around Mohi was in as good as a position as possible
managing transnational armies hundreds of kms from each other to deliberately trigger an effect for the larger battle is not insignificant by any means as it goes towards the issue of tactical mindset and battle planning
bear in mind that the third army was prepared to be the sacrificial cow in the broader endgame
we'll just have to agree to have differing views on the chicken or the military egg conundrum
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