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  • #16
    Anything that has mass and is denser then air is going to displace water.

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    • #17
      The buoyant force on an object is equal to the weight of the liquid (water in this case) displaced by the object. This is known as Archimede's Principle and is true whether the object is partially or completely submerged.

      In the case where something is floating (like we hope our ship is), the weight of the water displaced will be the weight of the ship. However, measuring the displacement of something that sinks, like a brick or whatever, will only tell you that it weighs more than the water it displaces...but won't tell you the weight.
      "Security is an illusion. Life is either a daring adventure or it is nothing at all."
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      • #18
        I saw a documentary recently with Tom Brokaw, and he was talking with some officer about this new ship. He asked what the speed increase was, and the guy said it was 'classified, but faster' to paraphrase.

        Any idea why the Navy would be so paranoid to release data like that? I'm sure it's good enough reason, but my curiosity begs the question.

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        • #19
          So the enemy doesn't know how fast it is...

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          • #20
            Cuz if you expect the CVBG to come in four days, giving you time to fortify your positions, and it comes in 2 and a half, it really fucks up your day
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            • #21
              Originally posted by bigross86
              Cuz if you expect the CVBG to come in four days, giving you time to fortify your positions, and it comes in 2 and a half, it really fucks up your day
              Haha, true.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by bigross86
                Cuz if you expect the CVBG to come in four days, giving you time to fortify your positions, and it comes in 2 and a half, it really fucks up your day

                Yeah if the carrier come on its own. However remember its escorts. There is no way in hell that the escorts can cruise for 2 days at more than 30 knots. Yeah they can speed at 30 knots but not sustain it.

                The CVBG is limited by the slowest ship in its fleet.

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                • #23
                  Top speeds are classified, but I'm pretty sure that it's over 30 knots, and they're using nule reactors. They can keep that speed up for quite a while
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                  • #24
                    A battleship can go 30 knots for an entire trip and then level 1300 targets without a reload and not including it's secondary weapons.

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                    • #25
                      The Burke DDGs and Tico CGs can sustain 30kts in calm seas for quite some time.

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                      • #26
                        The Project is -
                        CVN 21 Program
                        Advanced design work on the first new generation carrier, CVN 21, is underway at Newport News with construction slated to begin in 2007. Innovations for the next-generation aircraft carrier include an enhanced flight deck with increased sortie rates, improved weapons movement, a redesigned island, a new nuclear power plant, allowance for future technologies and reduced manning.

                        These and many other evolutionary new designs are being developed by our engineers to build the most capable aircraft carriers ever for the U.S. Navy.

                        NewPort News is the 'prime' on this and most of what is being rumored around sites like this were before the merger with Norhtrop Grumman. Since the merger Northrop Grumman has really sealed the info on this project, but I managed to get this too:

                        First unit (CVN-78) scheduled to begin construction in 2007 and to be placed in commission in 2014 to replace USS Enterprise (CVN-65), by then 53 years old.

                        Second unit (CVN-79) scheduled to start construction in 2012 and slated to be placed in commission in 2018; will replace USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67), by then 50 years old.

                        And . . .

                        Artist’s concept (illustrated at top of topic) of CVN-21 one of a new class of aircraft carriers. A new nuclear propulsion plant will power the next class of aircraft carriers. The new plant will require fewer operators thereby lowering life-cycle costs, and will provide increased electrical power that will be available for the demands of developing technology. Smart sensors will assist in further reducing Navy watch standing requirements and in automating damage control functions such as detecting fire and flooding situations. Flight deck redesign and a transition to an advanced aircraft recovery system (AARS) will reduce crew workload, enhance safety and reduce the costs of operating and maintaining a carrier throughout her planed 50-year life cycle. U.S. Navy graphic (# 030606-N-0000X-001), June 6, 2003.

                        Note: At the 2003 Navy League show Newport News displayed a model of a new carrier with four catapults and three, rather than four, elevators — the island being moved aft. The large, redesigned deck makes it easier to handle aircraft. When combined with the newer, more powerful and faster elevators and catapults, it is claimed that the number of sorties per day can be significantly increased.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Praxus
                          I would guess it's displacement to be similar to the USS Ronald Reagon which is about 100,000 tons. It will pretty much have the same dimensions.
                          (1) Reagan is 1,092 feet long, and once completed, will be home to 6,000 sailors, carry more than 80 aircraft and cruise at speeds in excess of 30 knots.

                          USS RONALD REAGAN (CVN 76) is the first carrier since USS NIMITZ (CVN 68) to have major carrier design changes. The ship’s design incorporates many changes including a completely re-designed island, a bulbous bow and flight deck modifications.

                          Island Structure

                          · Inside the island is a re-designed and state-of-the-art primary flight control station (pri-fly), giving a 270-degree view of all aircraft on deck and within the carrier’s airspace. This larger, expanded panorama ensures better visibility of operations and control of the precise actions on the flight deck. That, in turn, provides a safer working environment for the crew.

                          The aft radar antennae and a new weapons elevator were incorporated into the island structure, making it 20 feet longer and giving RONALD REAGAN a unique profile.
                          The overall height of the island house did not change, but the new island has one less deck, and individual deck heights were increased by nine inches to accommodate overhead systems and allow growth margins for future capability improvements.
                          For the first time aircraft carrier island structure was designed using a 3-D product model and all the construction work for the island was done indoors, in the Modular Outfitting Facility.

                          Flight Deck
                          · The flight deck angle has increased from 9.05 degrees to 9.15 degrees from the centerline. This allows unobstructed simultaneous launching and recovering of aircraft.

                          · There is one less arresting gear engine and three wires instead of four. This allows for more space for other essential equipment. The new three-wire arresting gear design can withstand more aircraft landings than the old design due to stronger wire sheaves.

                          Systems
                          · USS RONALD REAGAN is the first carrier to have the Integrated Communication Advanced Network (ICAN) installed throughout all areas of the ship.

                          · Digital communications run on a laser fiber backbone for enhanced communications and future upgrade capability.

                          · The ship’s engines have been outfitted with Titanium pistons for increased strength.

                          · There are six, 800-ton air condition units vice the eight 360-ton units on other aircraft carriers.

                          · Digital flat panels, instead of analog panels, are installed on the bridge. The ship’s control console uses a touch screen format.

                          Weapons
                          · USS RONALD REAGAN is equipped with Rolling Airframe Missiles (RAM), which replaces the Close-In Weapons System (CIWS) used on other carriers. RAM Systems pack 21 fire and forget missiles capable of destroying any high-speed incoming targets.

                          · An aircraft weapons elevator was relocated from the flight deck and now extends up into the aft section of the island, allowing for more efficient movement of aircraft ordnance during flight operations.

                          Additional Innovations
                          RONALD REAGAN has a large bulbous bow, similar to commercial tankers, resulting in increased list, stability and speed.
                          · Fifty-person life rafts versus the twenty-five-person life rafts on other carriers.

                          Here are the facts:
                          Name / Length O.A. / Beam / Depth / Displacement
                          RONALD REAGAN (CVN76) 1,092'0" 134'0" 100'6' 91,209

                          Cheers!
                          ~ Gary Mikami ~
                          Live 'N Let Live!

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                          • #28
                            Thanks for the info:)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Praxus
                              Thanks for the info:)
                              Hey Prax? No sweat pal. I figure I owe ya a couple, for the help you gave me.
                              ~ Gary Mikami ~
                              Live 'N Let Live!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Praxus
                                Anything that has mass and is denser then air is going to displace water.
                                Surely you mean anything that is denser than water will diplace water assuming it is a solid or a liquid that will not diffuse in the medium. :)
                                Where's the bloody gin? An army marches on its liver, not its ruddy stomach.

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