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    Why american policy makers cant read this and constantly supply arms to their future enemy. They dint learn lessons by creating taliban and Aq.
    We didn't create either group...
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    Quote Originally Posted by troung
    We didn't create either group...
    errmm... so you are saying that the Russians made Taliban???
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    IMO I know my goverment works with Pak. But if these camps exist they must be exterminated wether it causes a rift between them or not. Terrorists are Terrorists.
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    errmm... so you are saying that the Russians made Taliban???
    Nope it was the Pakistanis which pushed them. The Taliban showed up after the Communist government fell and Pakistan used them to try and make a puppet state in Afghanistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troung
    Nope it was the Pakistanis which pushed them. The Taliban showed up after the Communist government fell and Pakistan used them to try and make a puppet state in Afghanistan.
    urggggggg hasn't Pakistan been America's ally for the last 50 years .

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    Quote Originally Posted by troung
    Nope it was the Pakistanis which pushed them. The Taliban showed up after the Communist government fell and Pakistan used them to try and make a puppet state in Afghanistan.
    is it not atleast after effects of US intervention?

    Also how about stringers used by so-called mujahiddins at the time of kargil war?

    When you know they are creaters of taliban why do you supply arms to them still? Iam sure one fine day they will start using them against US interests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krishna
    is it not atleast after effects of US intervention?

    Also how about stringers used by so-called mujahiddins at the time of kargil war?

    When you know they are creaters of taliban why do you supply arms to them still? Iam sure one fine day they will start using them against US interests.
    no... the US only provided arms to the Mujahideens so they could fight against the Soviets... As soon as the war was over, America left... Pakistan took over from there on deciding that it needed a puppet in Afghanistan and to use the Mujahideens and all the arms against India... America did not arm the Afghans to start proxy wars against other countries... America armed them so they could stop the Soviet invasion which had it been succesfull would've probably gone right through Pakistan and ensured the Soviets a naval base in the Arabian Sea..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tronic
    no... the US only provided arms to the Mujahideens so they could fight against the Soviets... As soon as the war was over, America left... Pakistan took over from there on deciding that it needed a puppet in Afghanistan and to use the Mujahideens and all the arms against India... America did not arm the Afghans to start proxy wars against other countries... America armed them so they could stop the Soviet invasion which had it been succesfull would've probably gone right through Pakistan and ensured the Soviets a naval base in the Arabian Sea..
    Who given that strength and dare to pakistan to push taliban and run terror camps? US failed to control pakistan after defeat of USSR, so I called it as after effect.

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    Control Pakistan??? How is US suppose to control Pakistan when Pakistan's own leaders don't have control over their own country and their own agencies...
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    is it not atleast after effects of US intervention?
    Yeah after the "Jihad" was done.

    Also how about stringers used by so-called mujahiddins at the time of kargil war?
    You mean the Pakistani army?

    When you know they are creaters of taliban why do you supply arms to them still? Iam sure one fine day they will start using them against US interests.
    Well in the very least they can't give F-16s to AQ...

    Who given that strength and dare to pakistan to push taliban and run terror camps?
    They did that on their own.
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    US did not assist Pakistan in bringing to power the Taliban... The Pakistani's pretty much brought up the Taliban on their own... (basically they bought over the most poweful faction which was left standing after the Soviets left...)

    America did not bring to power the Taliban or AQ... the only point where America IS to blame though is that they left Afghanistan in a pretty bad shape... only if they had paid attention earlier on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tronic
    ... the only point where America IS to blame though is that they left Afghanistan in a pretty bad shape... only if they had paid attention earlier on...
    The US was never in Afghanistan. The only thing we are guilty of is helping the Afghanis defend themselves against Soviet agression. (And even that was not direct help, as everything funneled through Pakistan)

    If you need someone to blame, blame the USSR for the war. It wasn't the US's doing.
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    one last thing...

    so there are camps....waht you gonna do about it?

    Write to your local paper....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by highsea
    The US was never in Afghanistan. The only thing we are guilty of is helping the Afghanis defend themselves against Soviet agression. (And even that was not direct help, as everything funneled through Pakistan)

    If you need someone to blame, blame the USSR for the war. It wasn't the US's doing.
    I'm not blaming the US for the war... the CIA provided the Afghans with massive arm shipments plus a lot of money to fight the Soviets.... but as soon as the Soviets left, so did American eyes on Afghanistan... this basically gave Pakistan to rape Afghanistan which had already been raped by the Soviets... So... what i'm saying is that America should have continued to supply shipments and money to Afghanistan but this time the shipments could've been Humanitarian Aid and the funds could've been Reconstruction funds.. If America didn't neglect Afghanistan after the war, then maybe we wouldn't have had 9/11 or even an AQ problem...
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    Quote Originally Posted by platinum786
    one last thing...

    so there are camps....waht you gonna do about it?

    Write to your local paper....lol
    hehe... i'm glad you acknowledged that there are terror camps running in Pak.. now don't be surprised if some of them vanish in the morning and Pak cries air intrusions!!! lol... by ANOTHER secret Mig-25 unit which the Pakistanis again couldn't intercept... lol...
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