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Originally posted by Samudra...the absence of any new supplier and denial of the existing supplier.
JF-17 is going into production soon. Chinese engine WS-12/13 won't be operational before 2009 yet the Thunder is going full ahead. I do believe that Pakistan has the formal agreement from Russia to bypass the embargo on RD-93 export to PAF.
It just doesn't make sense to produce the aircraft and store it for three years till the engine comes availabe.
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Originally posted by NeoSam,
JF-17 is going into production soon. Chinese engine WS-12/13 won't be operational before 2009 yet the Thunder is going full ahead. I do believe that Pakistan has the formal agreement from Russia to bypass the embargo on RD-93 export to PAF.
It just doesn't make sense to produce the aircraft and store it for three years till the engine comes availabe.
I don't think Russia would go as far as having a secret agreement with Pakistan that no one in the world knows about!?Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage.
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Originally posted by MaximusNo source till now has confirmed that JF-17 would be powered by Russian RD-93.
I don't think Russia would go as far as having a secret agreement with Pakistan that no one in the world knows about!?
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Originally posted by NeoSam,
JF-17 is going into production soon.
Chinese engine WS-12/13 won't be operational before 2009 yet the Thunder is going full ahead. I do believe that Pakistan has the formal agreement from Russia to bypass the embargo on RD-93 export to PAF.
It just doesn't make sense to produce the aircraft and store it for three years till the engine comes availabe.Last edited by Samudra; 14 May 06,, 19:19.
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Originally posted by NeoMaybe Russia is just waiting for India to sign a deal with the US for 126 MRCA's... ;)
BTW Sam has a very valid point about IOC. And that way production won't begin till 2009-10.
Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage.
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Originally posted by NeoMaybe Russia is just waiting for India to sign a deal with the US for 126 MRCA's... ;)
Rest assured, Russians will have to wait for too long.The way I see it JF-17 will become operational by 2011-2012 timeframe with Chinese engines.
I would not rule out RD engines powering PAF planes by 2010-2012 either(if Chinese fail to deliver).....JF-17 will witness huge delays - enough for us to finish off that MRCA deal, plus get our Tejas operational with HAL churning out 20-24 of these beauties every year.Last edited by Samudra; 14 May 06,, 19:32.
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Originally posted by Asim AquilThe only advantage India realistically has is air superiority. Pak Air force is now quickly playing catch up. JF-17s will bridge the gap by large!
for army.. we have a bigger army. and definitely its equipment isnt worse than PA's.
for navy.. we are too big for paksitan navy..
JF17s arent even in production yet. and frankly by the time a good no of them are in service in pakstian india would have similar no of SU30's in service.. similar no of MRCA's and similar no of LCA's. its again gonna be a same situation..
please realise that the spending power of India on its military is much larger than what paksitan spends on its military.. and its gonna show its effect.
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Originally posted by SamudraWithout initial operational clearance?
Boss, you dont start full scale production before you get your IOC, do you? :)
It will take three years to roll out a new aircraft from a new production line.That takes us to 2009 and thats when Chinese engines might get their IOC.
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