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  • #16
    The Colt M4 Carbine is the standard infantry assault rifle used by the United States military
    Originally posted by TopHatter
    Uh, what?
    I see more M4s in the hands of our GIs than M-16s now. At least from news clips and photos. Most of them have attachments also, from a simple front grip to optics and lights.
    "Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.

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    • #17
      That's true. From photographic evidence there seem to be a lot more M4's issued than full-length M16's.

      However, it can be misleading. For instance, German war correspondants photographed as many MP40's as possible, giving the impression that there were more in service than there actually were.
      "The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world. So wake up, Mr. Freeman. Wake up and smell the ashes." G-Man

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      • #18
        Well, to pick bones, the M-4 can't possibly be the standard infantry weapon of the US military because the Marine Corps is still sticking to their M-16s =P
        All those who are merciful with the cruel will come to be cruel to the merciful.
        -Talmud Kohelet Rabbah, 7:16.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by gunnut
          I see more M4s in the hands of our GIs than M-16s now. At least from news clips and photos. Most of them have attachments also, from a simple front grip to optics and lights.
          It's likely that what you are seeing is troops that are assigned patrol in Iraq are issued M-4's. Which would lead to the media photographing them most of all, not unlike:
          Originally posted by leibstandarte10
          However, it can be misleading. For instance, German war correspondants photographed as many MP40's as possible, giving the impression that there were more in service than there actually were.
          Not that the media gives a rip about making it look like one rifle is more common than another, but probably more because the M-4 is more photogenic, especially with all the oddments and chochkies attached to it. Sooooo....the M-4 is seen more simply due to media exposure....

          Which leads us to point #3:
          Originally posted by Triple C
          Well, to pick bones, the M-4 can't possibly be the standard infantry weapon of the US military because the Marine Corps is still sticking to their M-16s =P
          Hey this is great, everybody responded for me
          “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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          • #20
            Originally posted by gunnut
            This is why:

            The AR-15 family has evolved into a modular weapon system. Replace the standard foregrip with rail system and you can put a bunch of different stuff on it to suit the mission needs, from grenade launcher to a front grip to tactical lights to laser to all sorts of optics.
            So has the Steyr been modified for the 40mm UBGL.
            http://world.guns.ru/assault/as20-e.htm
            Originally posted by gunnut
            This and that politicians' palms have been adequately greased...
            Palm greasing is got to be the answer...

            Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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            • #21
              lemontree: Palm greasing is got to be the answer...
              Goes without saying. We in india know the symptoms pretty well ;)

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              • #22
                Erganomics is a plus in the favor of the M-4A1. Cost as well as it is cheaper then the AUG-A3 which it was widley reported Malaysia would be building. Pretty much everyone who is anyone issues the M-4 . Malaysia has issued M-16s for decades and M-16s with UBGLs are still in use alongside AUGs among Malaysian peacekeepers. Malay SOF have made use of the CAR-15 for a few decades.

                So one starts to look for a new rifle which can make use of all the sexy rails and additions and have a choice between two of them and pick the M-4A1. The sexy additions and rails were built for the M-4A1 which is always a plus as well. So this is not totally out of left field.

                And palm greasing goes with any defense deal... whether cash, jobs for family or votes from providing jobs for ones district... and politics is another word for palm greasing... ;)
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                • #23
                  Which clown chose PINK berets for the troops?
                  Last edited by lemontree; 21 Dec 06,, 05:53.

                  Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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                  • #24
                    It ain't pink. It's maroon. Paras.

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                    • #25
                      It's fuscia.
                      "The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world. So wake up, Mr. Freeman. Wake up and smell the ashes." G-Man

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
                        It ain't pink. It's maroon. Paras.
                        Come on sir, see the difference....(note the chaps in the rear of the Malaysian pic are in Maroon berets but the guys in the center are in Pink)

                        British Paras with maroon berets...


                        Malaysian soldiers with Pink berets...
                        Last edited by lemontree; 21 Dec 06,, 05:53.

                        Cheers!...on the rocks!!

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                        • #27
                          At this point, I rather not say.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by lemontree
                            Which clown chose PINK berets for the troops?
                            Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
                            It ain't pink. It's maroon. Paras.
                            A trick of the light? Bad camera setting? Lousy transfer? Prices were quite reasonable for pink berets?


                            Besides, it looks like only the middle ranks are wearing...umm...pink.
                            “He was the most prodigious personification of all human inferiorities. He was an utterly incapable, unadapted, irresponsible, psychopathic personality, full of empty, infantile fantasies, but cursed with the keen intuition of a rat or a guttersnipe. He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.”

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                            • #29
                              There are only so many colors that one can use for a beret... Indonesian Marines also use a pink beret... the lesson is pick early...
                              To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightened and civilized people is to deride ones own dignity and to invite the disaster of their treachery - General Matthew Ridgway

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by lemontree
                                So has the Steyr been modified for the 40mm UBGL.
                                http://world.guns.ru/assault/as20-e.htm

                                Palm greasing is got to be the answer...

                                Or perhaps they bought their AUGs from Austrailia. They have many problems with the rifles they made. But palm greasing gets my final vote too. The arms imdustry is brutally effective at bribing. Not that there is anything wrong with that ;)

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