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  • An Easy Way to expose concealed Anti-Americanism

    I just came across this - had to chuckle at it.

    http://futurist.typepad.com/my_weblo...y_way_to_.html

    An Easy Way to expose concealed Anti-Americanism

    There are two superpowers in the world today. The United States of America, and anti-Americanism. Anti-Americanism is very powerful, as it is the sordid glue that holds the UN, fifth-column Americans, Euro-socialists, the world's fashion elite, and terrorists together. It is the invisible force that forces the US to withstand massive double standards that have been there for so long that they are taken for granted.

    Interestingly, with the exception of terrorists, such individuals go to great lengths to conceal their anti-Americanism, pretending to stand for 'nonviolence', 'peace', 'equality', the 'world community', etc. This begs the question of why they don't feel comfortable with declaring their dislike for the US. Maybe it is due to the guilt of knowing they are being unfair, or guilt that they are opposing a force of liberty and prosperity in the quest to be fashionable. Maybe it is all this plus juvenile envy of success and power. In any case, having a strong dislike for America, yet not having the integrity to be honest about one's true feelings, makes such a person easy to defeat through skillful debate.

    There are many ways to do this. Two examples are below.

    Option 1 :

    While many who say this are merely fashion-parroting sheep rather than committed anti-Americans, if someone you believe to be a genuine anti-American says they oppose the Iraq War because "there were no WMDs" or "Bush lied about WMDs", then you can merely ask :

    "So if WMDs were found, would you support the war?"

    They can either answer "no", to which you can say "So why do you obsess over WMDs if you still would have opposed it anyway? That appears rather phony on your part."

    Or they can answer "yes", to which you can ask them "But Iran and North Korea are openly admitting to the pursuit of nuclear weapons, and are threatening to use them. By your logic, invading them is fully justified, is it not?"

    They have thus revealed that they merely avoid taking difficult decisions, in order to criticize from hindsight and mask their anti-Americanism in pseudowisdom. Either way, they are trapped. This is so simple, yet very effective. In reality, they oppose any action by the US because they oppose the very ideals of the US. Yet, they are too ashamed to admit it, and so hide behind phony guises.

    Option 2 :

    If you are the one who wants to initiate the debate, you can openly declare that "I feel that America, despite many flaws, has done more to benefit humanity than any other nation existing in the world today." If your opponent is a secretive anti-American, they may react with sputtering outrage (blowing their cover). They will point out various acts of evil that America has done (some true, some imagined), but it will become apparent that they are judging America to some utopian standard, rather than in relation to other countries existing in the world today. To this you can merely reply :

    "Which country do you feel has done more for humanity than the US?"

    or

    "If an Asteroid were on a collision course with the Earth (never mind which country's instruments detected the asteroid), which country would be expected to take the lead in an effort to destroy or deflect the asteroid?"

    In either case, the anti-American will be cornered, and seek to change the subject, or become visibly annoyed.

    Expose their anti-Americanism, and you will gain a greater understanding of this shadowy second superpower.

    Prediction : Anti-Americanism will become more pervasive and tightly unified, with many Western anti-Americans moving from merely condoning the activities terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda, to engaging in covert yet active support of such groups.

    February 10, 2006 in Political Debate, Politics | Permalink
    "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

  • #2
    You guys always make for such great dinner conversation over here. Simple statements on my part such as "I actually quite like America" has the same effect on at least half of the people at the table as if I had just vented a very loud and smelly fart and said "better out than in".
    (Note: this is different than saying "I like Americans" because they will all rush to say "oh yes, individually they're all right")
    The subsequent splutterings follow pretty much what you've listed above.

    Other favourites:
    "McDonalds is the most moral fast food company around" does the trick.

    'I think they're doing a great job in Iraq" equates to dropping a turd on the table.

    "I think we should let their nuclear-powered warships back in" is roughly the same as snorting vomit out my nose.

    Interestingly enough, I still get invited out for dinner.
    In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

    Leibniz

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    • #3
      Originally posted by parihaka
      You guys always make for such great dinner conversation over here. Simple statements on my part such as "I actually quite like America" has the same effect on at least half of the people at the table as if I had just vented a very loud and smelly fart and said "better out than in".
      (Note: this is different than saying "I like Americans" because they will all rush to say "oh yes, individually they're all right")
      The subsequent splutterings follow pretty much what you've listed above.

      Other favourites:
      "McDonalds is the most moral fast food company around" does the trick.

      'I think they're doing a great job in Iraq" equates to dropping a turd on the table.

      "I think we should let their nuclear-powered warships back in" is roughly the same as snorting vomit out my nose.

      Interestingly enough, I still get invited out for dinner.
      Thanks for the mental imagery ;)
      "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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      • #4
        Originally posted by shek
        Thanks for the mental imagery ;)
        LOL, anytime, I have a wealth of them ;)
        In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

        Leibniz

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        • #5
          Did you happen to mention that you've met people all over the world, including Canada I might add who shared the same view?

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          • #6
            Sir,
            I was in Vancouver and I was talking to some Indian Origin Canadians. I said I support Iraq and Bush and there was a silence for a noticable time and one of them said you have changed, you become an American.

            I was like WTF!!!
            A grain of wheat eclipsed the sun of Adam !!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Officer of Engineers
              Did you happen to mention that you've met people all over the world, including Canada I might add who shared the same view?
              Who me? Whenever I talk about people I correspond with on the internet they look at me like I'm some sort of mentally retarded half-ape half-man.
              Probably because they spend all their time looking at porn and online date services.
              In the realm of spirit, seek clarity; in the material world, seek utility.

              Leibniz

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              • #8
                And the funniest part was the person who said I changed, earlier had applied for a US visit visa and got rejected
                A grain of wheat eclipsed the sun of Adam !!

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                • #9
                  Good stuff Shek.. definately worth a laugh and a smile.

                  I can understand when other states don't agree with our foriegn policy but it's mindblowing to me when I see and hear other americans bashing their own country. With all the freedom and privelages and oppurtunites we have here in the US I'll never for the life of me understand it. Sure the US isn't perfect but neither is any nation in the history of mankind that has come before us.

                  A close friend of mine (poor liberal sap) always dogs the USA and I know it's partly that he parrot's alot of what he hears from other people or what's reported in the MSM. The thing with the liberals is that they ***** and moan about so many things, spend all their energy looking at what's wrong and pointing out problems but they NEVER come up with a better solution or answer to the issues at hand. It's all negative.

                  It irks me how soon people forget how much good the US has done and is still doing for the world. During the cold war people we're much more aware of it but since the fall of the USSR peoples perceptions have changed. We beat the hell out of two bad guys (Saddam & Taliban) and all of a sudden we become the bad guy.

                  I agree with M21 when he said that "The US is the only thing stopping this world from entering complete Chaos" as was the case during the cold war and that's still the case today.

                  One other qoute that comes to mind that brought a smile to my face that Dalem posted awhile back that fits in with those right above. "The next time there is a hurricane or tsunami catastrophe somewhere in the world see whose Navy pulls up. It ain't the Russian or the Chinese... that's for damn sure."

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                  • #10
                    That is definately one of my biggest beefs with "anti=American" types. The U.S. is ALWAYS the largest supporter in times of disaster and yet when they drop a bomb on a baddies head......look out.
                    Facts to a liberal is like Kryptonite to Superman.

                    -- Larry Elder

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                    • #11
                      It may just be the mentality of many American's. We will do what we will do and we do not care what the other guy thinks about us. What the other countries of the World will find about America is that they will find no better friend or no worse enemy.

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                      • #12
                        I like posting this in threads like this:

                        "Annoyance, mistrust, scorn, derision, weariness. The above-average level that America receives is of course partly due to simply being a taller lightning rod - we're bigger, stronger, faster in many ways and we are also quite penetrative, like socio-cultural Liquid Wrench.

                        I think the rest of it is simple resentment; "Short Man" Syndrome sporting a Trojan Magnum condom. And it is understandable to a degree. We sort of stumbled into the Royal Flush of nation-state concepts and have managed to keep it going for a small while with relatively few hiccups. This makes some people angry. Some people want to be as successful as the U.S. without either the means or the effort. They can't, and they resent that we have what they cannot.

                        Also, some people want their own way of doing things to be correct - I'm sure die-hard Marxists want true Communism to work. It hasn't yet and here's the old US of A pooping along doing great, waving happily as we pull away. Likewise monarchists, collectivists, socialists, and tribalists all want good standards of living and stable, happy, wealthy populations, but most just can't crack it, and there we go again, waving happily as we pull away.

                        Lastly, I think some folks just fear power they feel they can't control. America has an economy that on its bad days can still counter the rest of the planet put together. We have a military that, when used properly, is the proverbial "Finger of God". We've lost more Mars probes and space shuttles than anyone else has ever built, and we stopped walking on the face of the Moon because we were too busy to find a reason to stay. Plus, we have five separate brands of caramel-coated popcorn snacks.

                        Maybe I wouldn't trust us completely either."

                        -dale

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                        • #13
                          calling someone "anti-american" is usually a cop out to real intellectual discussion.
                          rock chalk

                          jay hawk

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by guppy
                            calling someone "anti-american" is usually a cop out to real intellectual discussion.
                            Or it can be the other way - the person decides their conclusion and then uses that lens to judge all the evidence.

                            Two sides of the same coin.
                            "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shek
                              Or it can be the other way - the person decides their conclusion and then uses that lens to judge all the evidence.

                              Two sides of the same coin.
                              well yeah that's why i just prefer that people look at issues pragmatically and talk about the issues rather than the people/motives.
                              rock chalk

                              jay hawk

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