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Outrage as vicar drops 'not multicutural enough' Remembrance Sunday service
By ANDREW LEVY Last updated at 22:00pm on 27th October 2006
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For decades, smartly dressed veterans and servicemen and women in Wood Green, north London, have proudly packed their parish church for the traditional Remembrance Sunday service.
But this year there will be no such solemn ceremony at St Michael's - because the vicar felt it was not multicultural enough.
Father Colin Coppen decided it was unfair on non-Anglicans to make them attend a church of England service.
Instead he has decreed that soldiers who fought and died for their country will only be remembered during Parish Mass.
If the borough wants to remember its fallen than it should do so outside the church, he says.
The decision was yesterday branded 'disgusting' by members of the Royal British Legion and parishioners, while non-Anglican groups said it was completely unnecessary.
Wood Green RBL chairman Bob King, 68, said:"It's disgusting. That man would not be a vicar if it wasn't for the sacrifices of people who gave their lives for us.
"Hitler and the Germans would be marching across Britain in their jackboots.
"A lot of people like to go to the service - various organisations, as well as individuals.
"In the 1940s and long after the war, we were still a Church of England country and it is still a Church of England church.
"It's all right to have all these faiths but, after all, we are all praying to the same God and they should hold the normal service."
He added: "There's not many ex-servicemen left but everyone goes on about looking after minorities these days, so what about us?"
Jean Gotts, a leading member of the nearby Hornsey branch of the Royal British Legion, said: "It's not any one particular religious observance.
"It is for people to remember those who lost lives in all wars and I feel these people should be remembered."
A parishioner who asked not to be named said : "I have lived here all my life and we have always had the service.
"Families should have somewhere to go and quietly reflect and remember what happened."
The Muslim Council of Britain said it had "absolutely" no objection to Muslims attending Remembrance Sunday services.
"The MCB has attended services and been represented at the annual ceremony at the Cenotaph," a spokeswoman said.
Around 100 Royal British Legion members attended the service at St Michael's last year, along with other faith groups and members of the community.
This year they will have to make do with the traditional open-air service at the local war memorial followed by Parish Mass.
Father Coppen is understood to have taken action in the hope the council would be forced to devise a more "inclusive" form of commemoration.
"This allows the borough council to think how it wants to express and celebrate the contribution that worldwide cultures made to the victory in two world wars without feeling that it necessarily has to conform to the state religion," he said.
However, the Church of England said it supported Remembrance Sunday services.
A spokesman said: "The Church of England remains fully behind them but it is his church and his decision what services take place there.
"If anyone has a problem with it they can always talk to the diocese about it or go to another church."
A Haringey Council spokesman said: "The service has always had representation from different faith groups and communities in the borough.
"We were more than happy to have the service in the church but Father Coppen said he was unable to accommodate us this year.
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By ANDREW LEVY Last updated at 22:00pm on 27th October 2006
Comments Reader comments (17)
For decades, smartly dressed veterans and servicemen and women in Wood Green, north London, have proudly packed their parish church for the traditional Remembrance Sunday service.
But this year there will be no such solemn ceremony at St Michael's - because the vicar felt it was not multicultural enough.
Father Colin Coppen decided it was unfair on non-Anglicans to make them attend a church of England service.
Instead he has decreed that soldiers who fought and died for their country will only be remembered during Parish Mass.
If the borough wants to remember its fallen than it should do so outside the church, he says.
The decision was yesterday branded 'disgusting' by members of the Royal British Legion and parishioners, while non-Anglican groups said it was completely unnecessary.
Wood Green RBL chairman Bob King, 68, said:"It's disgusting. That man would not be a vicar if it wasn't for the sacrifices of people who gave their lives for us.
"Hitler and the Germans would be marching across Britain in their jackboots.
"A lot of people like to go to the service - various organisations, as well as individuals.
"In the 1940s and long after the war, we were still a Church of England country and it is still a Church of England church.
"It's all right to have all these faiths but, after all, we are all praying to the same God and they should hold the normal service."
He added: "There's not many ex-servicemen left but everyone goes on about looking after minorities these days, so what about us?"
Jean Gotts, a leading member of the nearby Hornsey branch of the Royal British Legion, said: "It's not any one particular religious observance.
"It is for people to remember those who lost lives in all wars and I feel these people should be remembered."
A parishioner who asked not to be named said : "I have lived here all my life and we have always had the service.
"Families should have somewhere to go and quietly reflect and remember what happened."
The Muslim Council of Britain said it had "absolutely" no objection to Muslims attending Remembrance Sunday services.
"The MCB has attended services and been represented at the annual ceremony at the Cenotaph," a spokeswoman said.
Around 100 Royal British Legion members attended the service at St Michael's last year, along with other faith groups and members of the community.
This year they will have to make do with the traditional open-air service at the local war memorial followed by Parish Mass.
Father Coppen is understood to have taken action in the hope the council would be forced to devise a more "inclusive" form of commemoration.
"This allows the borough council to think how it wants to express and celebrate the contribution that worldwide cultures made to the victory in two world wars without feeling that it necessarily has to conform to the state religion," he said.
However, the Church of England said it supported Remembrance Sunday services.
A spokesman said: "The Church of England remains fully behind them but it is his church and his decision what services take place there.
"If anyone has a problem with it they can always talk to the diocese about it or go to another church."
A Haringey Council spokesman said: "The service has always had representation from different faith groups and communities in the borough.
"We were more than happy to have the service in the church but Father Coppen said he was unable to accommodate us this year.
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All he could have done and checked how many non Anglicans had attended the Service in the yesteryears and then made up his mind and given a comparitive statement of the number of veterans and how many attended.
If non Anglican attended in the earlier years, then there would be no reason to cancel the Service.
I also don't buy the Minorities claiming that they have no objection to attending the Service. It is all very easy to say after the fact. Anyway, lets see if the Minorities attend the Mass.
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